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If your D just ended the 4th, better to let them rest in OT while your O gets the ball first.

One more thing I forgot to mention: the Peacock game (and TNF games too) is on NFL+ on your phone.or tablet, but not TV. For your TV you need Prime. Maybe that is why they are asking for a Prime account. But NFL+ does advertise all your local and primetime games are watchable on mobile devices if you are a paid subscriber to NFL+. Otherwise you can watch NFL+ but you gave authenticate your cable provider or Prime. https://id.nfl.com/subscriptions/select/nflplus "NFL+ $6.99/month TV, PC, PHONE, & TABLET NFL Network Live Game Audio Live and On-Demand Offseason Content And More! PHONE & TABLET Live Local and Primetime Games (including Playoff Games and Super Bowl LVII)" https://www.nfl.com/plus/learn-more "NFL+: Watch Patriots vs. Broncos on December 24th at 8pm ET LIVE on NFL Network"

If your D is gassed, better to get the ball first and let them rest then.

No problem. FWIW, you probably know this already, but you can also watch TNF free with Twitch on your phone or tablet, and then use a TV app to get it to your TV.

There's a "watch" arrow icon in the bottom. So are you not able to watch NFL Network games on your phone with NFL+? I am trying to do further research on this as I don't have NFL+. This is what their website says: https://id.nfl.com/subscriptions/select/nflplus "NFL+ $6.99/month TV, PC, PHONE, & TABLET NFL Network Live Game Audio Live and On-Demand Offseason Content And More! PHONE & TABLET Live Local and Primetime Games (including Playoff Games and Super Bowl LVII)" https://www.nfl.com/plus/learn-more "NFL+: Watch Patriots vs. Broncos on December 24th at 8pm ET LIVE on NFL Network" This reddit thread seems to indicate NFL+ shows all local and primetime games on your phone or tablet:

American Forces Network schedule for Week 16: The Peacock-exclusive Bills-Chargers game will not air live on AFN. It will air at 6 AM Eastern on AFN Sports. Bengals-Steelers will air on AFN Sports, however, live. As for Sunday, AFN Sports has Lions-Vikings, Cowboys-Dolphins and Patriots-Broncos. Sports2 has Browns-Texans and Jaguars-Buccaneers. Prime Atlantic has Colts-Falcons and Cardinals-Bears. On Monday, the NFL tripleheader will be on Sports2, due to AFN Sports having the NBA quintupleheader.

Also note that while the NFL is king in the US, many countries are choosing to cover the Christmas Day NBA games on their ESPN/FOX networks, as basketball is huge abroad (except in the UK). So, for example, Australia and New Zealand, which are not showing the Christmas Day day games (except on DAZN). And also Brazil: : And Mexico: Sweden and Norway are showing only the LV-KC Christmas Day day game on TV4 Play & TV2 Sport X.

Yeah, FOX is unfortunately steering many of the competitive AFC markets to that game. They want more yes on that leading into their main late game. It is a good game (two winning teams fighting for the NFC North) but many people feel the same as you. The problem is Atlanta, who, despite currently fighting for the NFC South title, has a losing record. And the FOX audience is still NFC oriented, having covered them for all these years. AFC teams like Indy are treated as a step-child.

You should be able to watch TNF on your phone or tablet. That is how they are broadcasting the Bills game Saturday.

[Note 1: Doubleheader this week is FOX.] [Note 2: There is *no* more ManningCast until Super Wild Card Weekend.] [Note 3: Remember: the TNF game is free and legal to all on Twitch--no Amazon Prime account needed.] [Note 4: The Christmas Day game on MNF is on ABC only as ESPN is airing the NBA the entire day.] [Note 5: There are no regular season more byes left this year.] [Note 6: There are two Saturday, one Christmas eve, and two Christmas day broadcasts as well this week.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- NFL Week 16, 2023 - December 24, 2023 NATIONAL BROADCASTS: https://506sports.com/nfl.php?yr=2023&wk=16 https://archive.506sports.com/wiki/2023_NFL_Season TNF - Amazon Prime Video/Twitch (free) Thursday, December 21 - 8:15 PM ET: New Orleans at Los Angeles Rams Al Michaels, Kirk Herbstreit, Kaylee Hartung [simulcasts: WDSU (NBC/6) New Orleans and KTTV (FOX/11) Los Angeles] SNF (Saturday Late) - NBC Saturday, December 23 - 4:30 PM ET: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Noah Eagle, Todd Blackledge, Kathryn Tappen SNF (Saturday Primetime) - Peacock Exclusive Saturday, December 23 - 8:00 PM ET: Buffalo at Los Angeles Chargers Mike Tirico, Chris Collinsworth, Melissa Stark [simulcasts: WGRZ (NBC/2) Buffalo and KNBC (NBC/4) Los Angeles] Also being replayed Sunday, December 24 at midnight on NFL Network. [thanks to @Limeaid for mentioning this to me!] Christmas Eve Primetime - NFL Network Sunday, December 24 - 8:00 PM ET: New England at Denver Rich Eisen, Kurt Warner, Sherree Burress, James Palmer [simulcasts: WCVB (ABC/5) Boston and KMGH (ABC/7) Denver] Christmas Day Early - CBS/Nickelodeon Monday, December 25 - 1:00 PM ET: Las Vegas at Kansas City (A) Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson [Nickelodeon will air a family simulcast entitled "NFL Nickmas Game" with Noah Eagle, Nate Burleson, Dylan Schefter, Rafael, and Donatello for the third straight year. This simulcast will feature plenty of slime.] Christmas Day Late - FOX Monday, December 25 - 4:30 PM ET: New York Giants at Philadelphia (B) Joe Davis, Darly Johnston, Pam Oliver MNF - ABC only Monday, December 25 - 8:15 PM ET: Baltimore at San Francisco Joe Buck, Troy Aikman, Lisa Salters ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- CBS Single Sunday, December 24 - 1 PM and 4:05 PM ET: █ Alaska █ Hawaii █ Red: Cleveland at Houston (B) Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn █ Green: Seattle at Tennessee (D) Andrew Catalon, Tiki Barber, Matt Ryan, AJ Ross █ Yellow (Yellow): Washington at New York Jets (E) Spero Dedes, Adam Archuleta, Aditi Kinkhabwala █ Blue: Jacksonville at Tampa Bay (LATE) (C) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Early Sunday, December 24 - 1 PM ET: █ Alaska █ Hawaii █ Red: Detroit at Minnesota Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, Shannon Spake █ Blue: Indianapolis at Atlanta (C) Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, Kristina Pink █ Green: Green Bay at Carolina (F) Chris Myers, Robert Smith, Jen Hale █ Gray (Blackout) [Gray (Blackout)]: Houston is exercising its right to enforce a blackout in its DMA on KRIV (FOX/26) Houston in the early Sunday timeslot. [Home teams have to allow the other network to air a competing game in the same time slot four times a year but can enforce a blackout if that number has been or will be exceeded that season. This will be the fifth time this year in Houston.] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOX Late Sunday, December 24 - 4:25 PM ET: █ Alaska █ Hawaii █ Red: Dallas at Miami (A) Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, Tom Rinaldi █ Blue: Arizona at Chicago Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, Laura Okmin ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Byes: None ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- UK and Ireland: https://www.skysports.com/watch/nfl-on-sky https://www.radiotimes.com/tv/tv-listings/ TNF Friday, December 22 - 1:15 AM GMT: New Orleans at Los Angeles Rams Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event SNF (Saturday Late) Saturday, December 23 - 9:30 PM GMT: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event (joined in progress at 11:00 PM) SNF (Saturday Primetime) Sunday, December 24 - 1:00 AM GMT: Buffalo at Los Angeles Chargers Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event Sunday Early Game Sunday, December 24 - 6 PM GMT: Cleveland at Houston Sky Sports NFL only Sunday Late Game Sunday, December 24 - 9:25 PM GMT: Dallas at Miami Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event (joined in progress at 11:00 PM) Christmas Eve Primetime Monday, December 25 - 1:15 AM GMT: New England at Denver Sky Sports NFL and Sky Sports Main Event Christmas Day Early Monday, December 25 - 6:00 PM GMT: Las Vegas at Kansas City Sky Sports NFL only Christmas Day Late Monday, December 25 - 9:30 PM GMT: New York Giants at Philadelphia Sky Sports NFL; Sky Sports Main Event (joined in progress at 11:00 PM) MNF Tuesday, December 26 - 1:15 AM GMT: Baltimore at San Francisco Sky Sports NFL, Sky Sports Main Event, and Channel 5 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Australia: https://www.ussportsdownunder.com.au/blogs/tv-guides/australian-nfl-tv-guide TNF Friday, December 22- 12:15 PM AEDT: New Orleans at Los Angeles Rams ESPN SNF (Saturday Late) Sunday, December 24 - 8:30 AM AEDT: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh ESPN SNF (Saturday Primetime) Sunday, December 24 - 12:00 PM AEDT: Buffalo at Los Angeles Chargers ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, December 25 - 5:00 AM AEDT: Cleveland at Houston 7mate Detroit at Minnesota ESPN Seattle at Tennessee ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, December 25 - 8:25 AM AEDT: Arizona at Chicago 7mate Dallas at Miami ESPN Christmas Eve Primetime Monday, December 25 - 12:20 PM AEDT: New England at Denver ESPN MNF Tuesday, December 26- 12:15 PM AEDT: ESPN2 [Note: The usual station ESPN is showing wall-to-wall NBA coverage on Boxing Day] ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- New Zealand: TNF Friday, December 22 - 2:15 PM NZDT: New Orleans at Los Angeles Rams ESPN SNF (Saturday Late) Sunday, December 24 - 10:30 AM AEDT: Cincinnati at Pittsburgh ESPN SNF (Saturday Primetime) Sunday, December 24 - 2:00 PM AEDT: Buffalo at Los Angeles Chargers ESPN Sunday Early Game Monday, December 25- 7:00 AM NZDT: Cleveland at Houston Free stream on NZTV+ Indianapolis at Atlanta Free stream on NZTV+ Detroit at Minnesota ESPN Seattle at Tennessee ESPN2 Sunday Late Game Monday, December 25 - 10:25 AM NZDT: Arizona at Chicago Free stream on NZTV+ Dallas at Miami ESPN Christmas Eve Primetime Monday, December 25 - 2:20 PM NZDT: New England at Denver ESPN MNF Tuesday, December 26 - 2:15 PM NZDT: Baltimore at San Francisco ESPN2 [Note: The usual station ESPN is showing wall-to-wall NBA coverage on Boxing Day] ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

But you don't get the NFL Christmas games there on Boxing Day (unless you have DAZN), since ESPN s showing NBA all day!

Wasn't there someone from Washington who was supposed to come here last year, but reneged? Someone here called him McKittrick I think too.

Tua:

What about this: Josh Allen?

Gotta hand it to the Brits; they have a unique sense of humor! [These are from the NFL UK twitter...too cumbersome to post all the images I have below as tweets since they are replies to one another]

James Cook did not win Player of the Week in the UK. Sigh...

Us old schoolers missed a ton of games in the 80's and 90's (and before) due to local blackouts. About once every year or two, a large corporation like Bells or Tops bought out the remaining tickets on Wednesday or Thursday so we could watch the game on TV (usually NBC). But the primary alternative for most was Van Miller's call on the radio. Ahhh...the (not so) good ole' days.

DirecTV sent techs to only the top chain restaurants (national accounts) such as Buffalo Wild Wings and Hooters in TEGNA markets to install the antennas with standalone ATSC tuners to plug in to their matrix system, but the independent bars and smaller chains would have to pay for them. The game is live on NFL+, confirmed on RedZone Sunday. Also:

Ok...I was trying it on a phone. That is why.

Adrian Hill was our referee in Week 4 at home vs. Miami. [And I stole the "Yo Adrian!" idea from @Big Turk who made this post in the Week 4 referee thread!] NFL Capsules Week 16: https://nflcommunications.com/Documents/2023 Football Information/Capsules/Week 16 Capsules.pdf [third game from top] Adrian Hill - 5th season as referee Pos. No. Name Exp. 20222 Crew College Occupation R 29 Adrian Hill 14 n/a Buffalo Aerospace Software Engineer U 81 Roy Ellison 21 same Savannah State IT Engineer DJ 24 David Oliver 7 same Baker Information Systems Manager LJ 17 Brett Bergman Rookie n/a [unknown] [unknown] FJ 31 Mearl Robinson 7 same Air Force retired US Air Force Instructor SJ 5 Jim Quirk 13 same Middlebury Financial Advisor BJ 12 Greg Steed 21 Rogers Howard Computer Systems Analyst RO n/a Roddy Ames 6 same Colby College Attorney RA n/a Joe Wollan 4 same St. Thomas Talent Acquisition Leader Back Judge Greg Steed went to Howard University: [credit to @SoMAn for noting this in the original Week 4 thread] https://touchdownwire.usatoday.com/lists/bengals-ravens-holding-pass-interference/ "Twitter reacts strongly to multiple blown calls in Ravens-Bengals game "It is a day ending in “Y,’ so there’s clearly bad officiating going on in the NFL, and that’s certainly been true in Thursday night’s game between the Baltimore Ravens and the Cincinnati Bengals. The culprit in this particular day ending in “Y” is referee Adrian Hill and his crew, who made more than one atrocious call. The first blown call took a touchdown off the board for the Ravens. With 5:15 left in the first half, Lamar Jackson hit receiver Zay Flowers on a quick pass, and Flowers did the rest, taking the ball for what certainly looked like a 68-yard touchdown. Somehow, Hill’s crew called holding on receiver Odell Beckham Jr., and the touchdown was nullified. "Then, with 54 seconds left in the first half, Jackson threw an incomplete pass to Flowers, but Bengals cornerback DJ Turner was flagged for defensive pass interference. If you can see defensive pass interference anywhere on this play, you have better eyes than we do." https://detroitjockcity.com/2021/01/05/detroit-lions-officiating-sunday-unjustifiable/ "Detroit Lions: Officiating Sunday simply unjustifiable and horrendous NFL officials continue to disrespect the Detroit Lions. Even after Sunday’s officiating debacle, referee Adrian Hill defended his decision to throw a flag on Detroit Lions safety Tracy Walker. As the Detroit Lions hosted their NFC North rival Minnesota Vikings in the final week of the regular season, the NFL officials once again added to their awful history of atrocious calls against the Detroit Lions. "As you can see, this call came at a vital time in the ball game. Walker made the play, and as you watch the replay, Walker didn’t put his entire body weight on Cousins; he clearly tries to roll off. Unfortunately, that’s not how Adrian Hill saw it." https://bloggingdirty.com/2022/11/12/refs-historical-mistake-cost-atlanta-falcons/ "Refs made historical mistake that may have cost the Atlanta Falcons "Anyways, the incident occurred when the Falcons’ offense had the ball in a second down needing one yard for the first with about 12 minutes remaining in the third quarter. They handed the ball off to Tyler Allgeier who picked up nine yards, but as they did so frequently, they called holding on Parker Hesse. As everyone knows, offensive holding is a ten-yard penalty, I repeat ten-yard penalty, but apparently, Adrian Hill and his crew of officials decided that they would change the rules just this one time and make it a 13-yard penalty, because, you know, the NFL has to punish the Falcons for playing terrible in primetime again. The second-down play started at Carolina’s 28-yard line, Allgeier carried the ball for nine yards to the 19-yard line, and the holding penalty was enforced on the 28-yard line (as it should be) but somehow the ball ended up all the way back at the 41. I am pretty sure 28 + 10 is not 41. It was even marked down as a 13-yard penalty on the NFL’s own play-by-play summary:

Yep...many athletes in IFBB are on the gear (including women). But in INBF, you are drug tested and have to pass a lie detector test.

Well then... I am going to start listening! [I dud try it before and no luck...maybe I did it wrong.]

Yeah, I wanted to stream WGR radio on Audacy, but that is not allowed if you're outside the Buffalo area. Also, what's everyone going to do when there are more Peacock games, presumably, next year?