chongli

McD is growing up! Bills 6-3 this year in games decided by one score or less! Take that Cowherd.

What did he do?

I saw the players clear snow. But I was wondering why Bass didn't point them to the area where he started his run. That is also a very critical area.

[I am sure this has been mentioned elsewhere (the post game thread is way too long for me to read through), but it might be a topic that deserves its own thread. A lot of people are talking about it, but mods feel free to merge this.] I saw the game but did not listen to the NFL Network call. Apparently, Mark Sanchez was critical of Motor's decision to kneel at the four yard line. I will admit I was miffed when I saw the play. My thinking was it is a tie game in very icy conditions. In such conditions, you take the given TD rather than relying on a last-second FG where anything can go wrong (just look at what happened to Justin Tucker yesterday). Yes, I know that would leave Miami 34 seconds and a time out left for the potential tying (or winning) TD, but it is going to be a very hard thing to do. Yes, the Bills did have KC do it to them twice: 13 seconds and a similar thing against them this season at the end of the first half, and Buffalo did it to Minnesota to end the second half this year too, but I still consider it a fluke thing. Still, I can understand the reasoning the other way. Miami has Tyreek and Jaylen, and a defender could just as well slip against them and give up the tying (or winning) TD. And a close FG, even in these situations, is still a relative gimme. It's a tough call, and I will have to side with McD's judgment. He said in the article he has coached his team for this situation, calling it "no mas". Devin, to this credit, knew what to do! In the comments to the article below, almost all of the people were against Buffalo not coring the TD in a tie game in icy conditions, saying the field goal was not a given (although the comments voting was about even). The twitter comments were a little more positive. They said if you have the lead, then sure, but take the points in a tie game in such conditions. They also said if Bass-o-matic missed the FG and the Dolphins went on to win in OT, people would be angry at Motor for costing us the game and first place in the AFC.

Anyone know where I can find some crybabies?? Oh, that's right...the Miami Dolphins forum. I haven't been there yet, but I guarantee they will be whining about the refs and the JA 2-point conversion. And how they were the better team and they want to meet us again in the playoffs.

Sal just said he got hit with a snowball.

Just saw your post @Freddie's Dead in the pre-game thread with the T-shirt: "@chongli, next time we play the Viqueens...." I love it! Post of the year!

It's a streaming service for free. There are others, but I don't want to violate any rules by discussing this.

I've been having this same bottom of page issue about once a week for the past month or two (on a computer with Microsoft Edge). I just tested it on a different thread, and it didn't happen. So it seems it be random. [EDIT: also, when I clicked "submit" to post, nothing happened. So I clicked again and still nothing. But when I checked the thread just now, it did post and appeared twice, so I just deleted the extra post.]

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/35253737/nfl-week-15-game-picks-schedule-guide-fantasy-football-tips-odds-injuries-stats-know#miabuf "Bold prediction: Despite the weather, the Dolphins will win. Tua Tagovailoa has yet to win -- or play well in -- a game where temperatures are under 50 degrees. That all changes Saturday as the Dolphins' laissez-faire attitude toward the snow pays off as Tua throws two touchdowns in a critical division victory. -- Marcel Louis-Jacques"

Apple and Disney/ESPN have now bowed out on NFL Sunday Ticket negotiations for 2023, leaving only Amazon and Google. This means no more yearly negotiations with DirecTV! From the article: "Here’s the key quote, from Byer: “I’m now told that Apple, once seen as a frontrunner for the rights, has also backed out of those negotiations — not because they can’t afford it, but because they don’t see the logic. So it’s down to Amazon and Google, and there’s certainly a logic there for both companies: Amazon can use it to drive Prime subscriptions; Google can use it to fuel its YouTube TV business.” This also means the Disney/ESPN has exited the bidding, too. Apple’s decision to take a pass is a stunner, since Apple had emerged as the clear frontrunner for the package that DirecTV has held since its inception in 1994. Between, however, the extreme asking price and the strict limitations imposed on the product, there’s a point at which one corporate behemoth tells the other to get lost."

Annoyed that Josh didn't even get a single state (not even Wyoming)! For team pages, the Bills won Alaska and Nebraska (WTF?): How is Peyton Manning still there for most viewed player pages in 2022?

Saturday, December 24: CBS Single: Cincinnati at New England Ian Eagle, Charles Davis, Evan Washburn Houston at Tennessee Andrew Catalon, James Lofton, Amanda Renner Buffalo at Chicago Greg Gumbel, Adam Archuleta, AJ Ross New Orleans at Cleveland Spero Dedes, Jay Feely, Aditi Kinkhabwala Washington at San Francisco (Lae) Kevin Harlan, Trent Green, Melanie Collins FOX Early: Seattle at Kansas City Kevin Kugler, Mark Sanchez, and Laura Okmin New York Giants at Minnesota Adam Amin, Mark Schlereth, and Kristina Pink Atlanta at Baltimore Kenny Albert, Jonathan Vilma, and Shannon Spake Detroit at Carolina Chris Myers, Robert Smith, and Jen Hale FOX Late: Philadelpha at Dallas: Kevin Burkhardt, Greg Olsen, Erin Andrews, and Tom Rinaldi NFL Network Christmas Eve: Las Vegas at Pittsburgh Rich Eisen, Kurt Warner, Steve Mariucci, and Michael Irvin ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Sunday, December 25: FOX Early: Green Bay at Miami Joe Davis, Daryl Johnston, and Pam Oliver CBS Late: Denver at Los Angeles Rams Jim Nantz, Tony Romo, Tracy Wolfson Nickolodean simulcast: [Nickmas Game (a slime-filled presentation)] Denver at Los Angeles Rams Noah Eagle, Nate Burleson, Gabrille Nevaeh Green, Young Dylan, SpongeBob SquarePants’ Patrick Star (voiced by Bill Fagerbakke) from Bikini Bottom

Well FOX is producing all three of NFL Network's games on Saturday, but NFL Network wanted to use their own guys when they had them, hence Eisen and Warner for the Baltimore-Clevland game and Burleson for the Colts-Vikings earlier. Noah Eagle (son of Ian Eagle), who is also doing Baltimore-Cleveland, is kind of new and works for FOX, so they are testing him out. Miami-Buffalo got two experienced FOX announcers (Kugler and Sanchez), who NFL Network has also used this season for two out of their three London games, but they are later down FOX's pecking order in announcing crews. FOX saved their best for their own Sunday games, which is to be expected. But you can say Kugler and Sanchez are the best FOX announcers they lend out to NFL Network, so in a way, we got the best FOX lends out. Eisen and Warner are the (pretty much only) NFL Network announcers, but that network does not do a lot of games.

Two minor updates on the map for FOX: 1. Tampa has switched from DAL-JAX to PHI-CHI (probably in deference to the snowbirds in that area). 2. Jackson, MS has switched from ATL-NO to DAL-JAX I wish WUTV FOX in Buffalo and the other FOX affiliates in upstate NY would switch to New England at Las Vegas instead of Dallas at Jacksonville. This would hold the interest of Bills fans more. But it looks like they have made their decision, as updates usually occur by now. On a side note, on the CBS early game, while most of the nation (geographically-wise) gets KC at Houston, at least the UK has common sense and chose to broadcast Detroit at the Jets, which should be a good game the way both teams have been playing recently. ------- EDIT: Two Three minor updates on the map for the CBS early games: Quad Cities (area on Iowa-Illinois border) goes from DET-NYJ to KC-HOU. Greenville, MS goes from PIT-CAR to DET-NYJ. Champaign, IL has switched from DET-NYJ to KC-HOU.

Actually, I'd rather have the Pats needing to win to get in, and then have them lose to our second and third stringers, just like we did in 2004 to Pittsburgh in Week 17. The ultimate humiliation for them, forcing Belichick's retirement. Of course, if that were the case, that game wouldn't happen on a Saturday.

Uhhh...10 minutes by bike as a 10- or 11-year-old child when the Bills were holding a scrimmage at TC in Fredonia against Green Bay back in the early 80's. I lived in Dunkirk nearby, and went alone, as was normal for small kids to do back then. I got there early to get a good seat in the bleachers, but the sun was beating down directly on me. I only had a dollar or so in my pocket, which got me a small drink. After that, it became so unbearable that I biked back home before the game even started and drank an entire pitcher of Kool-Aid from the refrigerator. I decided to stay in the house then, lol.

It's definitely possible it gets moved, but if this is for playoff seeding, it is unlikely. For example, if it is Buffalo or KC for the number one seed, the NFL wouldn't want to give Buffalo an advantage by having them play after the KC game, knowing they would either need to win if KC won or could rest their starters if KC lost. The same goes if New England is playing for the number seven seed or so. They wouldn't want to give New England an advantage. The only way I see it getting flexed is it for New England winning and they're in, no matter what the outcomes of the earlier games that day or Saturday.

But this is a thread announcing all the NFL announcers and games on FOX and CBS (and NFL Network this week). I can't be biased toward the Bills in a thread like this, even though I am a Bills fan.