Allen2Moulds

When trading for a proven commodity, you are removing the biggest variable, and that's whether or not a guy can excel at the next level. In reading what Kirby posted in the trade thread, and Beane's presser from yesterday. It almost all but confirms that they were really going after BTJ. The million-dollar question of course, that we likely will never know, is how close they got to a deal. Was our max maybe a 2nd and player, say Keone or Samuel? Was Jax wanting a 1st+ ? Did Jax jack up the price at the last minute? I still say that he was worth, about the price we paid for Diggs, and I'm willing to bet that Beane was probably willing to at least come close. I'm wondering if the Sauce trade happened, and Jax thought, wait......maybe we should also push for a 2 1's, and at that point, Beane hung up on them.

Hold them out against Miami.

Isn't this guy just another fan with a podcast? Not trying to bash him or anything, just don't see him as a legit source. Unless you know more.

Now this I would love, but it would be very pricey. I'm not a fan of Ridley, but if he was part of a Simmons deal, it changes things.

Rams were paying for Stafford when they traded for Vonn and ODB. They wouldn't of won without those guys. They proved that if it's the right guys, at a position of need, it can help put you over the top. Right now, we struggle in obvious passing situations, due to our lack of outside threat.

Not sure I agree there. Wilson has arguably done better in a far worst situation. Most non Bills fans I talk to consider Wilson elite. Not sure Diggs was considered or seen as elite before coming to Buffalo. Diggs had a competent top 10-15 QB in Cousins throwing to him. I don't think we need to list any of the Jets QBs.

Quickly losing hope.

When you consider the Pre-Buffalo Diggs vs. The Wilson now, I would give Wilson a slight edge.

I know you weren't asking me, but I would say that he is slightly better than Olave, and maybe even what Diggs was in Minn, before we traded for him. So I would say for about the same price we got Diggs, a 1st and a 3rd.

Shaheed went for a 4 and a 5. The cost for a WR doesn't seem that steep. I really hope we're holding out to get the best possible deal, but WR is an absolute must.

When a team is down on a player (not sure if debatable), and then he gets hurt, they certainly don't love him anymore. They would probably welcome a new, healthy fresh body and some draft picks. Seems like a failing marriage between BTJ and the new regime.

I continue to believe that the Jags are def open to trading BTJ. Gladstone and Cohen are both 1st year guys, and they have been disappointed with BTJ this year. New GM's love their draft picks, and I can see them trying to recoup the 1 they traded away. After Russini initially leaked that they were listening, days later the Jags report that they are not trading him. They did not have a need at WR and just traded two picks for 1, and then immediately again report that they are not looking to trade him, although there moves say otherwise. That being said, it still has to be for the right price. Come on Beane, let's get it done, please!!!

Doesn't have to be a pre-cursor to BTJ being traded, but it can only help. Especially if we're willing to also add Keon, or any other WR on our roster except Shakir.

Sorry for the repeat comparison, but someone should tell Steve Smith that Randy Moss wasn't a dog. He hated being hit or going across the middle. Most of the things that BTJ is being criticized for. I'm not saying your wrong about Shaheed, but you have to factor that Olave is the one drawing the most coverage, which allows Shaheed more favorable opportunities. My buddy in Jax tells me that BTJ is consistently double teamed. For what it's worth.

What a great play at a key moment. Thanks for sharing. Walker has been a beast!! Maybe we should draft Kentucky players more often. It looks like we hit 2 homeruns there. I also have to give a shout out to Jordan Phillips. I know a lot of people like to bash him, but he's basically a street free agent at this point in his career, and still has a knack for making a big play or 2 in the critical moments. Look at how he took on the double team, to allow Walker to be single blocked by Creed.