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Easy answer here - the average viewer wants to see Steph Curry, Justin Timberlake, etc. No question that Kyle is a gamer and probably the most talented golfer of the ex-footballers. But we are several years removed from his retirement and his name recognition/celebrity just isn't there at this point. Don't get me wrong, I would LOVE to watch the big man out there schooling everyone in the short game. He's one of my top 5 all time Bills and still my go to jersey for game day!

Wrong movie! I think this was Robocop, right? Both classics but Robocop was an all time fave for me as a kid.

When it comes to comparing seasons across sports and positions, I think that subconsciously, fans lean towards offense. That's what makes Hasek's inclusion all of the more impressive. His level of dominance during this era simply cannot be understated. "The Dominator" winning the Hart in 97 was akin to Lawrence Taylor winning the NFL league MVP as a linebacker in 86'. It had been almost 40 years since a goalie won the Hart. Then Hasek won the damn thing again in 98! Another somewhat forgotten accomplishment that punctuated his dominant tenure in Buffalo - the 1998 Olympics in Nagano. He put the Czech Republic on his back, leading the massive underdogs to gold. I have vivid memories of being away at college in Boston and calling for my dorm buddies to huddle around the TV to watch him in the shootout against the heavily favored Canadian team. He absolutely stoned a murderers row of goal scorers. This video is in Czech, but I think it makes it all the more fun to watch as you hear their national pride and excitement. When this game was over it almost seemed like his shutout performance against Russia in the Gold Medal finals was a footnote. Simply remarkable.

Josh is out there with Mitchell. They just aren't showing the amateurs in the early coverage. I watched him on the ESPN+ app, featured hole 7. He birdied the signature ocean hole 7 in the practice round. 30mph gust today. Just watched him double bogey the same hole. They showed his stock yardages and we're gushing about it. He goes driver 315 yards, 3 wood 285, 5 iron 220, 7 iron 190. I forget the rest

Not only did he do that, but unless I mistaken he made Enemkpali a captain for the first game against the Jets. Or am I just imagining that? What an absolute performative clown Rex was

Again, based on pure physical potential, can't forget Spencer:

If you want to define talent as pure athletic potential, Mario Williams has to be on that list.

I just found the interview on my ESPN+ archives. It's the "PGA Championship final round with Joe Buck". The broadcast is chopped into 2 segments. The 3 hour segment, for any golf fans, is great as the first portion has John Daly being John Daly ripping heaters throughout his interview. The one hour segment has Josh at the 18 min mark and the interview lasts about 10 min. Here is what was covered: -He took the interview via his phone from the golf cart. His girlfriend him with a mystery playing partner as Mitch Trubisky showed up partway through the interview. -He's prepping for "The Match" which is 10 days away. Said his wedge/shortgame and putting are strong and he's working out the kinks on the rest -Says the Brady and Rodgers were the two QB's he idolized most growing up. He wants to trash talk during their match but recognizes he's the young guy so will do so carefully -Buck and Co convinced him to do a brief Tiger Woods impression. Josh said Tiger and Kobe were the two athletes that got his blood rushing the most -Of course he was asked about the playoff loss the Chiefs and if it still bothered him. He said life is too short to hang onto stuff like this and he wants to focus on being the best version of himself this season. Of course he followed up that answer with "that one will sting for a while". This is probably the more honest answer. As a huge bills fan and golf enthusiast, I am probably way too jazzed for "The Match" vs most fans twobillsdrive. I'm curious how many folks will actually tune into a friendly golf match airing on TNT on a Wednesday. I know I will!

So did anyone catch any commentary from Josh? How did he do? Anything memorable?

Yeah, I agree that it seems like Jada, I mean Rachel, might be this guy's undoing

I missed this comment and brought up the same throw later on. Glad someone else mentioned this.

Here is one that is often forgotten because of the stupid "Hail Murray" - That last go ahead TD drive against the Cardinals in 2020. In that drive you had the one handed sideline catch by Beasley which was probably Cole's best catch as a Bill, followed by the TD throw to Diggs which, considering the stakes and the difficulty of the throw, might be the best pass of Allen's career up to this point.

This is best ball. Not to be confused with a scramble. People use these labels interchangeably but they are two different things. This tournament is best ball.

Not sure if you all caught it but on Pat McAfee today, Josh pretty much confirmed my suspicion. He has added about 10lbs since Wyoming, now weighing in at 245, yet has managed to get faster. As Pat likes to say, Josh is a WAGON!!!

I was just talking about this today with a friend of mine. I know that his mobility was certainly a factor in the Bills drafting him but I think his rushing prowess to this extent is just found money. The more he puts on tape of him throwing in scramble situations (see the first Knox TD on Saturday) makes it even harder to contain him as a runner. Pick your poison! He does look like a bit of a giraffe in his combine sprint and I truly believe that his 4.75 40, while still impressive, is way off of his actual game speed. When he hits his stride, just look at how he pulls away from LB's, some of which who ran 4.5-4.6. I wonder how much Josh truly weighs at this point. He looked so babyfaced when he was first drafted at 6-5/237. He looks much more like a man now and I can't help but think he's added another 5-10 lbs just as most players do when the enter the NFL in their early 20's and fill out. I'm sure glad I don't have the task of spying him.

Trade for Josh adjustment is just about the funniest Bills tweet I've ever read

I know the prevailing sentiment is "act like we've been there before" but I just have to bump this thread and keep it alive. This was honestly the most satisfying win I can recall since the 90's Bills. I live 20 minutes from Foxboro and most of my close friends, apart from my hometown Buffalo buddies, are Pats fans. Last years December beatdown in Foxboro, while enjoyable, felt somewhat empty because of no fans, Cam Newton, Covid related excuses from Pats fans etc. Once the afterglow of Sunday's game had dissipated and the family was asleep, I poured many glasses of bourbon, and rewatched the entire broadcast version on NFL gamepass. At the same time, I queued up the Bills/Pats gameday thread on the Patsfans message board so that I could bask in long overdue misery of that fanbase. Is that wrong of me to do? Two days later, I can't help but binge on clips of Good Morning Football, Colin Cowherd, Skip Bayless, etc all gushing over the dominant performance put on by Josh Allen and the Bills. Listen, I totally get that there are 2 must-win games left for the Bills and the last thing I want is them losing focus on the Falcons, but they are the team that has to prepare and we are the fans. Is anyone else still just savoring what happened on Sunday?

I think the OP is pretty much spot on with this notion of a rivalry needing to be reciprocal. I live about 20 minutes from Gillette, firmly entrenched in Patriots country. As a lifelong Bills fan, I can tell you it has been a tough stretch. My estimation is that Bills fans talk about the Patriots 100x more than the fans here even think about our team. They've completely written off last year's Cam-led losses as an aberration. Foxsports put up that Bills Fans billboard across from Gillette and I stopped by to take some pictures today while doing some shopping next to the stadium. I actually ran into an ex Patriot in the checkout line and while discussing that billboard he mentioned, "Wow, you guys are strangely obsessed with us". It reminds me of living here in the early 2000's when the Red Sox were still on their 80 year championship drought and were constantly chanting "Yankees Suck!" even at games where the Yankees weren't involved. Meanwhile, my friends from NY/NJ explained that no one in NY gave a damn about the Sox and that it was odd how persistent Red Sox Nation was. Same goes for the old Bills/Dolphins rivalry. We went the entire 70's without beating them once. I was born in 79 and really didn't get into the Bills until the late 80's. By that point we were consistently beating the Dolphins so I never understood the hatred of the Fins. That's because I never had to experience the suffering of the previous decades. Especially over the last 4-5 year where we have particularly owned Miami, it feels harder to get rev'd up for a "division rival"! All of that being said, if the Bills can pull it off this Sunday, take the division, and outlast the Patriots in the playoffs, it will go a long way towards reigniting the reciprocal hate from Pats country.

I have watched a lot of Josh tape from Wyoming and had never seen this. I hesitated to post this as I was thinking it had already been shared on TSW. Glad that you all liked it. I totally agree - the fact that he made the tackle made me completely forget the INT. "That's my quarterback".

I just came across this highlight. Pretty funny. The flag was thrown on the defender, by the way: https://www.espn.com/video/clip/_/id/17513167

I agree. Deep ball should almost be it's own category. Straight arm strength is Allen all day.

But they are which is exactly why they have him behind Mahomes.

"Pass velocity and the amount of zip a QB can put on a pass were factors in the ranking, as was the ability to hit the deep ball" Based on this criteria, I find it hard to argue with their rankings. If it were velocity and zip only, measured empirically by radar, I would say Allen all day. When you factor in their body of work connecting on deep balls, even Josh has admitted he has a lot of work to do.

That was the intention. I used the "1" from two Mitchell and Ness Super Bowl XXV Jim Kelly jerseys to make "11". Then I had the custom "NORWOOD" nameplate added. It has the Super Bowl patch and everything. Just a way embrace the suffering and have a sense of humor about things during the depths of the drought era.