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He really was special. That 2002 season where him and Peerless Price went off was one of the few bright spots of the drought era. Speaking of the drought era, will someone eventually make it onto the wall of fame? Personally, Kyle Williams is my all time favorite from that time but I'd have a tough time saying he was more dominant than Eric Moulds. Elbert Dubenion is up there and granted it's not fair to do a direct stat comparison from 35 years earlier, but what makes Moulds less qualified? Maybe just a victim of the poor teams he was part of vs Elbert's 2 AFL championships?

That's good to know. Do we have hard numbers yet on how much the extensions for Rousseau, Bernard, and Shakir freed up?

Agreed! I'm dying to know how much cap space this freed up.

Tre is not exactly a willing, let alone competent tackler...

Thank you for all of these insights, Barley! I wish I had a better understanding of the cap. I listen to a lot of podcasts and I really enjoy Greg Thompsett's explanations on how the cap can be manipulated within reason, which is essentially a strategic "kicking of the can". So 2024 was definitely a "take your lumps" type of year with the cap but I guess I was foolishly optimistic about 2025 and being more middle of the pack as far as cap space. When I check out Spotrac's 2025 team cap space rankings, it looks pretty depressing to see the Bills sitting at 4th to last, with teams like the Chiefs and the Ravens having 4-5X more cap room. I know that there are levers to pull and ways to free up space but don't many teams have similar available options? In your opinion, are the Bill really close to the bottom of the league again as far as cap space or does this ranking not really paint an accurate picture? https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/cap/_/year/2025/sort/cap_maximum_space

That is a good point but when you compare $3.2M to what Benford would command on the open market ($20M+ AAV) that still is crucial from a roster construction aspect. If we don't have a significant amount of starters on rookie deals, the math doesn't work.

That's what happens when you weigh 150 lbs soaked wet. The biggest knock on worthy

You captured my sentiments perfectly. And here I was thinking I coined the term " emotional hedge"! In fact, the last time I did this was that Bills Ravens playoff game 4 years ago. Best money I ever spent

I like the analogy except for one thing. Unlike Okoye, Henry IS playing this Sunday

It's funny that this thread pivoted to Greg Rousseau and his value in relation to raw sack numbers. His QB hurries, pressure rate, and all other non-sack metrics are top 5-10. Will it actually help the bills in extending Rousseau if he ends with 8-9 sacks instead of 12+? I asked this exact question of Joe Marino on the Locked on Bills podcast and he answered it this morning:

I'll never understand how helmet to helmet penalties against the defense only seem to protect receivers. Running back gets cleaned out by the crown of a helmet - no one cares. Special teamer Newman for the jets gets smacked with a helmet - doesn't matter.

Allen definitely was forcing the issue with trying to stretch the field. That being said, the deep pass to Hollins seemed to be spot on. Hollins appeared to lose track of the ball or pull up for some inexplicable reason.

I know there are bigger issues to talk about from this game than kickers but hear me out... When was the last time an opposing kicker missed one at the end of the game? Didn't most of you feel that the 59 yarder was almost a foregone conclusion? It was reminiscent of last year when the Bills had the Eagles dead to rights when Jake Elliot banged a 59 yarder into a driving rain to send the game into overtime.

It was 4th and 10 with the bills showing next to no ability to advance the ball more than 5 yards at a clip. Anyone that thinks that McDermott is a conservative coach doesn't know what they're watching. His fourth down aggression is amongst the highest in the league

Josh never got to play with Kyle. Man, what a bright spot of the drought era. Him and Fred Jackson deserved so much more