CincyBillsFan

When they've tried to throw conventional screen passes more often then not Allen has to throw the ball at the RB's feet as the defense is all over the pay. When they've tried to throw WR screens more often then not the WR catching the ball is nailed for no gain or even a loss as the Bills undersized WR group is unable to block for this kind of screen. Allen throws plenty of "short passes" in a game. The reality is that on very rare occasions do those catching these short passes make a guy miss, speed past the tackler or God forbid BREAK a tackle.

It always bugged me how the Bills got credit for the great job they did bringing Allen along when in fact the Bills screwed up Allen's rookie year. First they clearly didn't intend to play him that year and blew the offense up. The 2018 Buffalo O had to be one of the worst collections of offensive talent in Bills history. Second since they didn't plan on starting Allen he didn't get many 1st team reps through training camp and the preseason games. And instead of STARTING training camp with a veteran QB in the room to help Allen they had 2nd year Nathan Peterman on hand. But all their plans went up in smoke when Peterman started against the Ravens and had one of the worst QB performances in NFL history. So the next week Allen is thrown to the wolves. IMO Allen rose above the bad circumstances that the Bills organization dealt him in 2018. Now to be fair Bean/McD recognized that they had screwed up and over the 2nd half of the 2018 season and in 2019 they added better offensive players and a couple of vets in the QB room to help Allen out. You are spot on though when you say that the Bills should have built around Allen since day 1. Instead with the exception of Diggs the Bills have gone bargain basement shopping when it comes to committing draft & FA capitol to the offense surrounding Allen. And in today's NFL this is the wrong approach to take. Hopefully McD/Bean understand this and start correcting it immediately.

If Allen is struggling what do you call the play of 28 other QB's not named Allen? Allen has already proven that he's an elite QB and one of the top 5 in the NFL. All that remains is for the Bills to narrow the enormous gap between the offensive talent (line + skill players) surrounding Allen and the talent surrounding Mahomes, Burrow & Hurts. That Allen can be spoken of in the same breadth as these other QB's given the talent deficiencies around him suggests to me that with the right group of players on offense Allen would be at the top of any QB list.

Allen doesn't have a "processing flaw" he has a talent issue surrounding him. Allen has 4 playoff wins in 5 seasons Rivers had 3 in 17 seasons. Allen has been remarkably productive in the playoffs Rivers was average at best. To say they are on similar trajectories is flat out wrong.

I would call it the flavor of the day rather then the common consensus. Allen has already won 4 playoff games in 5 seasons while in his 17 seasons in the NFL Rivers won 3. PFF had Allen as the highest graded QB in the NFL this season. While the players voted Allen as the 2nd best QB just behind Mahomes in a recent poll. Oh and my friends who support other NFL teams universally believe that Allen is a one of a kind elite player being let down by a team that won't invest in offensive talent to the same extent as the Chiefs, Bengals & Eagles. BTW Burrow looked pretty bad to me in that loss to KC throwing only 1 TD and 2 INT's. And I still don't get the idea that if Mahomes was drafted by Buffalo in 2017 he would be as successful as he's been at KC. With a defensive minded coach in McD and the skill players the Bills put on the field? And Allen has outperformed Rivers by a wide margin in the playoffs.

It is not homerism to say that during his first 5 seasons Allen was a better QB then Brady during his first 5 seasons. Brady had a much superior team and coaching which is why he won Super Bowls. And yes Allen did give the Bills a discount. He could have played hardball with Bean & the Bills like Jackson currently is.

Allen gave the Bills a big discount just like Brady gave the Pats. It's likely that by the end of summer Allen won't even be in the top 10 highest paid QB's in the NFL. And Brady was no where as good in his first 5 seasons as Allen is today. Brady was NOT the reason for those early NE SB wins - their D and running game was. As a Bills fan this constant passive/aggressive sniping at Allen gets old.

I think the belief is more along the lines that while Rogers can still play and put up okay numbers he is no longer elite and isn't lifting a team into the playoffs based on his play. The Jets would be much better off keeping their draft picks and trying to sign Carr or Jimmy G.

I see little reason to believe that if Rogers goes to the Jets they make the playoffs next season. Are the Jet's WR's really that much better then Green Bay's? The Jet's O line isn't as good as GB's and for all the talk of the Jets having a great running game the Packers have a better pair of RB's.

By the end of the season I think GB had a better receiving group then the Jets. And while the Jets RB's are okay they're not as good as the two guys for GB. And I'm pretty sure the Jets O line wasn't as good as GB's. IMO going to the Jets would be a lose/lose with both Rogers and the Jets getting the short end of the stick.

They did add a couple of solid WR's to help fill the hole left by Hill's departure. The key was that the KC organization tried to fix the issue and I suspect they will be active in the FA market and on draft day to further lesson the blow of losing Hill.

This will be another data point either refuting or supporting Cowherd's assertion that the game has passed defensive minded coaches by. I believe Cowherd is right and at best the Texans will get back to 500 and flirt with a playoff birth over the next few years.

Yes and I suspect it won't even be all that close.

All you need are two teams to be interested and Jones could very well command 45 million per year. And with Brady off the market and uncertainty swirling around Tua & Purdy Jones will likely have more then two teams interested.

I wanted them to draft Allen because he was fun to watch on ESPN's late night college football broadcasts. I'm still waiting for my finders fee!

Please. With a leaky O line and a lack of play makers not named Diggs Allen directed the 2nd ranked scoring & yardage offense in the NFL. He also led the team to a 14 - 4 record, a playoff win and a division title. Oh and Allen put huge numbers of his own up - over 5,000 total yards and 42 TD's. Allen wasn't his own worst enemy he was the victim of the Bills defensive mindset that directed the lions share of resources to the defense.

Hard to imagine Allen not being worth what he's going to get paid. Especially since by the end of this summer Allen will likely not even be in the top 10 highest paid QB's. And the issue with Allen isn't whether he can lift young (or old) WR's up to be stars. He's already proved he can. Just take a look at the quality of WR he has had since his rookie year and how productive he has made them: John Brown & Cole Beasley had career years while guys like Foster & McKenzie have had huge games. The issue is Buffalo's O line and it's inability to consistently protect Allen.

I would start with Allen & Diggs and go from there. Think about the production Allen would have with the Eagles O line, the 49's CMC & Kittle and the Bengals WR's plus Diggs. IMO it would surpass the production that every other QB, including Mahomes, could deliver with the same talent.

I also don't get their line of reasoning. Signing CMC was a brilliant move that helped the 49's reach the conference championship. That they lost all their QB's to injury over the course of the season including two during the championship game has nothing to do with the CMC signing. The fact is had we signed McCaffrey we might be playing down in Arizona in two weeks.

Nonsense. Posters have accurately called out the top 3 reasons Diggs production dropped a bit: 1) defenses schemed to take him out of the game and no one else on the Bills stepped up; 2) Multiple bad weather games; and 3) Allen's injury.

The drought and it ain't close.

For me it starts with a clear indication by their actions that McD & Bean are redirecting the lions share of the FA & Draft capitol to the offense - particularly the O line and WR's.

The weather, a terrible O line and a distinct lack of play makers beyond Allen & Diggs all contributed to the offenses problems against the Bengal's. The mystery is how was Buffalo able to generate as much offense as they did throughout the season? Their issues on offense are real and substantial due largely to the Bills focus on the defense. So when we get to the playoffs I hold the defense to a much higher standard then I do the offense. In KC they would hold the offense to the higher standard because that's where they put the lions hare of the resources.

A better performance by the defense provides the offense with a few more possessions. That would have led directly to more points on the board. And again the defense played poorly at key points of the game making it harder to generate momentum and take advantage of playing at home. Specifically: * The D allowed the Bengals to take a big early lead. * Both times the Bills offense got them to within one score the defense promptly let Cincy go on two long, time consuming scoring drives. These were 2 key pivot points in the game that the defense allowed to slip away. By the time the O got the ball back half a quarter had been used up and the Bengals were back out in front by 2 scores.

And let's not forget that the defensive minded head coach for the Chargers isn't doing Herbert any favors either. And you can bet that Pederson and the Jags will be doing everything possible to improve the offensive talent around Lawrence in the off season. BTW I actually like and respect McD. He did turn around a franchise that was all but dead in the water. But he must rise above his defensive bias and change direction. I actually think he and Bean will do exactly that in the off season. If we can see the problem they saw it long before we did.