CincyBillsFan

I suspect they were thinking about the public impact on their fan bases expectations and their young QB's, not about any appearances of collusion. In fact it would have been stupid to insinuate that they were looking at Jackson as Lamar's contract demands make signing him very difficult and publicly expressing interest at the start of the process hurts their negotiating position. And for these specific teams saying nothing at the start is saying that they're interested in Jackson. BTW I enjoy seeing the Dolphins mess up as much as the next Bills fan but even I would think it cruel and unusual punishment to put Tua through another round of Miami going after a big name QB.

Not to mention: * Jackson has failed to complete the last two seasons with significant injuries. * Jackson has been very bad in his four playoff games where he has a 1 - 3 record. * Any team that currently needs a QB would likely have to significantly change their offensive scheme to accommodate his playing style.

A 40 year old Aaron Rogers. IMO Rogers is following the trajectory of Drew Brees and not Tom Brady. This means the drop off can happen as soon as next season. Best case scenario is Rogers falls fast within 2 seasons. Wilson a top 5 WR some day - maybe. Next season - in your dreams.

The Bills often won 7 games (out of 16 and not 17 games) with some pretty QBing during the drought. Are you thinking less then a 1st & 2nd rounder? Because if it's that much they're mortgaging the future. And don't forget the CAP hit here even with the Packers paying some of the salary.

Yea but Diggs towers over all the Jet's WR's and gives the Bills a decided advantage in this position group. IMO the Jet's are going to mortgage the future bringing in Rogers. The Jet's roster and coaching staff are not on the cusp of winning a SB if they get QB right. They would be better off bringing in Jimmy G and continue to build their roster through the draft. Just my opinion but I can honestly say that as a Bills fan I hope the Jets bring in Rogers.

The Jets may think they're in Stafford/Rams territory but they don't have a fraction of the coaching brilliance of McVay and the Jet's roster is not nearly as good as the Rams was in 2021. Oh and Stafford right now is better then Rogers.

I would take our WR group over theirs and that's a problem for the Jets and Rogers. I also like Knox a lot more then any TE the Jets can put on the field. Both O lines are bad. The Jet's RB situation isn't much better, if at all, then the Bills given we don't know when and how well their rookie RB sensation comes back from his knee injury. I like our Offensive coordinator better then the Jets hack at OC. And right now Allen is a much better QB then Rogers. So why is everyone panicking?

I agree. Rogers couldn't lift GB into the playoffs last season and on offense I think the 2022 Packers had more play makers and a better O line then the 2022 Jets offense. As an aside with the exception of QB the Jets have drafted very well the last couple of seasons. They will be giving up a lot of draft capital to acquire Rogers. is that really a good idea for a 40 year old QB not named Brady?

The best thing Allen could have done after this season was to walk away from football for a couple of months to decompress and replenish his spirit. The worst thing he could have done after this season was to hit the weights a week after the loss to the Bengals. And for the record if Bean can get the O line to AVERAGE and add one play maker Allen will be a 5500 total yards/50+ total TD's guy every year he stays healthy going forward.

So Allen doesn't work out hard in the off season? Now this is a new angle to trash Allen. One I didn't see coming.

Remember Jet's fans are only limited by their imaginations. Just like we Bills fans were over the two decade long drought.

This is how we Bills fans talked all off season after another year in NFL purgatory. Sorry, but I'm not buying that the Jet's roster is as good as some are saying. They have a couple of very good young players but there are big holes in this roster particularly on the O line. The playoff drought was only 2 years old but it had been what 5 years sine a playoff win? And after 4 straight SB appearances most of us Bills fans saw the team on the edge of a cliff. As I recall the reaction to signing Bledsoe was very positive at the time - both among Bills fans and in the national sports media. The goal was to get back to the SB, not just make the playoffs. I don't know bout you but after the Bills opened with a 31 - 0 thrashing of NE at home and then a 35 - 17 beat down of the Jags on the road I was feeling pretty good about the Bills and Bledsoe.

Yes Bledsoe! When he came to the Bills the chatter was that he was going to lift a good roster over the top and into the playoffs. And things sure started out great. As far as knowing what I'm talking about, I question your knowledge saying that Carr is "much better than Bledsoe". Sure Carr doesn't throw as many INT's because he's careful with the ball to a fault but Bledsoe did throw for over 44,000 yards and 250 TD's in his career. My guess is that if Bledsoe was playing today his stats and winning record would look a lot like Carrs.

It was a total team collapse. But it was also ANOTHER example of an elite QB and powerful offense having their way with a Frazier coached defense in the playoffs. Had the defense played lights out maybe we win that game 16 - 13. But it didn't. In fact at key points in that game - at the start and after both Bills scores - the defense went to sleep and allowed long time consuming scoring drives to happen. And for the record the offense played lights out in BOTH of last years playoff games and yet we went 1 - 1 thanks to the defense.

But rarely against superior offenses. Frazier's defenses could shut down average to weak offenses to a degree that seldom happens in the current NFL. Hence the high regular season rankings. But against the top QB's & offenses, particularly in the playoffs, the story was not the same. For sure Frazier had Jackson & the Ravens figured out and he gets an A+ for that. Otherwise the failings of his defense at key points against top offenses was a recurring theme.

Yep and as I recall some of the usual suspects on TBD were pissed at Allen for taking a sack late in the 4th quarter and almost losing a fumble. In that playoff game, as he has done in several, Allen put the team on his shoulders and carried the Bills to victory. If Rivers hadn't lost his touch at the end of that game the Colts would likely have won it thanks in no small part to the D's 4th quarter meltdown.

The key point in recent Bills history was at the end of the 2020 season when Buffalo opted to make do with less on the offense and maximize the firepower on defense. An offensively minded coaching/management group would have recognized the unique talent the Bills had at QB and surrounded Allen was as much talent as the CAP would allow. Under no circumstances would they let the O line atrophy in the way it has.

Apples and oranges. If I told you that the Bengals gained 30 first downs, had 412 yards in total Offense, rushed the ball for 172 yards, had 34 minutes TOP, had no turnovers and gave up only 1 sack what would you have thought? If the Bengals had needed to score 40 points they could have.

In addition to allocating the lions share of the resources to the Offense the D needs to: * Take more chances and become a pressure defense. * Play their rookies early and often. If a draft pick shows signs of being good put him on the field knowing there will be mistakes. KC had what, 3 rookies staring on D in the SB? * Change the philosophy to one that recognizes that when a team moves the ball and keeps your O off the field you are failing even if they don't score or only get a FG instead of a TD. The Offense should be the strength of the Bills. An opponents 3 and out should be treated like a TO. And if you give up a quick TD know that your high powered O will be right back on the field. This is how KC does it. As an aside, offenses need to establish a rhythm. When they're sitting on a bench they are getting themselves out of sync whch leads to 3 and outs when they do finally get the ball.

Did you watch the game? You need to check out the stats. Let's start with the Bengals getting 30 first downs. Sure the offense wasn't dominate but at every key point in the game the D failed: * The Bengal's scored TD's on their first two drives of the game. They were up 14 - 0 before the Bill's had touched the ball for their 2nd possession. * After the Bills had cut the lead to 14 - 7 the D allowed the Bengals to go on a long time consuming drive that ended in a FG and a 17 - 7 lead. And the only reason Cincy didn't score a TD on that drive was a great play by Millano and a dropped pass by Chase. * At the start of the 3rd quarter the Bills went on a long drive that ended in a FG cutting the Bengal's lead to 17 - 10. Sure a TD would have been better but at home it was now a one score game and the D needed to step up and grab the momentum. * Instead Cincy goes on a long TD drive to go up 24- 10 and use up most of the rest of the 3rd quarter in the process. And when fans criticize the D it comes from a knowledge that Buffalo has favored the D in draft picks and FA signings over the last 3 years. The Bills chose to prioritize the D over the O so more is expected of the defense.

Maybe it's more a hope then a belief. But if the Bills do the right thing and pivot hard from being defensive focused to offensively focused then they'll need to change their D. The KC model comes to mind. Populate the D with a couple of elite play makers and the rest are JAGs (rookies, cheap FA's etc.). Understand that this new defense will not be smothering and will not be a top 5 D in the regular season. But it will force more then it's fair share of 3 & outs and TO's. Which gives the offense more possessions to score. And when one of the JAG's on this D screws up it will be a quick score or drive and the O is right back on the field. That is how KC does it.

I think you nailed it here. To me this is a clear indication that they're going all in on the offense this off season. They sat down with Frazier and explained that not only were a lot of the defensive FA's not coming back but it would be slim pickings in FA and the draft for the D. The Bills are going to need a radically different style of D going forward. One that Frazier isn't comfortable running.

Three games if we're being honest here: Twice against KC and against the Bengals. And the D wasn't exactly stellar against Indy in that playoff game either. Came close to blowing a 24 - 10 4th quarter lead.

Given the talent on the Bills roster I thought when Buffalo added a quality QB like Bledsoe to the roster the playoffs were right around the corner. Instead it was more of the same. The Jets showed promise last season and have some decent players but their roster is hardly loaded. Let's see what they actually do with all that "talent" before declaring that Carr, Rogers or Jimmy G will boost them to the next level. Hell, Denver had a strong roster and people thought Wilson would push the Broncos past the Chiefs. How did that work out?

They already are!