CincyBillsFan

What evidence o you have that Allen chose Dorsey? From what I can see McD wanted an OC he could control and dictate how he wanted things to go. McD has admitted he has his hands all over the offense in ways he never did with DaBoll. Sure Allen approved of the choice of Dorsey but that's a very different thing then hiring him.

From what I could see McD's blitzes failed every time except once and that was on the sack that knocked Denver out of FG range. That McD would tempt fate and run that same blitz against Sean Payton who is an offensive wizard and Russel Wilson who has made a career out of beating that blitz is beyond stupid. It was gross negligence on the part of McD reminiscent of "13 seconds".

This season is done and trust me when I say that coming from an incurable optimist. Tearing this thing apart mid season will help us by likely getting us into a better draft position. And I have to say that while it goes against the mood on the board with respect to Dorsey, your idea of firing McD and hiring Dorsey as interim HC is appealing. I'm not convinced Dorsey is the problem as McD has indicated that he is more involved in the offense and the tactical problems on game day have always rested with him. And if we make a total switch to an offensive minded head coach & GM, it won't be a jump start as much as going in a new direction. BTW I include Bean here as I assume he agreed or even formulated the approach 5 years ago to focus on the defense at the expense of the offense. IMO this is the foundation of the Bills problems as it fly's directly in the face of what it appears to take to win in the current NFL.

I don't disagree. Allen played poorly at times tonight. His 2nd INT was bad and he missed Shakir who was open on 4th down. But the tone for the Offense was set on the opening two drives and had nothing to do with Allen - the Cook fumble on the 1st play of the game and then Davis letting a ball go right threw his hands leading to an INT in the Bronco's Red Zone. You're right about Allen being a high variance QB. It's a great way to put it. Allen is Favre. We need an OC and offensive minded head coach who know how to construct a roster and game plan to best suit his skill set. Instead we have a defensive minded head coach who doesn't have a clue of what to do with Allen and a GM in Bean who has ignored the offense in favor of the defense. The Bills screwed up big time 5 years ago by not focusing the franchise on Allen and the offense.

Yep this was an all around bad effort by the Bills. Cooks opening play fumble was real bad. But worse was Richard Head McD punishing Buffalo's #1 RB by holding him out of the next THREE freaking series. What the hell was that? Maybe you sit him for one series, and that's a big maybe, but not more then that. And the Davis drop, which led directly to an INT in the Bronco's Red Zone killed us as much as Cooks fumble.

I feel like a weight has been lifted off my chest. The Bills problem is clear as day to me and its the head coach. We all knew deep down in our hearts after "13 seconds" that McD was fatally flawed as a head coach but we kept hoping. Now if Pegula wants to stay with McD & Bean hey it's your team but I'm done. Another year of McD will ruin Allen. Another year of Bean prioritizing the defense over the offense will ruin the franchise. If the Bills are going to reopen that SB window they need to part ways with McD/Bean after this season. Five years ago with a special, elite QB in place they chose to go all in on the defense and not surround their young super star QB with the best offensive talent available. That decision was a massive strategic mistake. Throw in repeated tactical mistakes by McD and his coaching staff and the Buffalo Bills are now an average team going downhill fast.

I think calling an all out blitz TWO TIMES in a row was just as bad as 12 men on the field. What the hell was McD thinking? After the 1st sack Payton & Wilson had a TO to talk over how they would beat that blitz should McD be stupid enough to run it again. You had Denver in 3rd & 10 out of FG range. Again in a tight situation this head coach fails. He must go.

Do you know what was worse then to many players on the field? The fact that McD called an all out blitz TWICE IN A ROW after Sean Payton & Russel Wilson had time during a TO to discuss what they would do if McD did it again. And Russ threw a sky ball deep and got the expected PI. It was 3rd & 10 from midfield we didn't need another sack they were alreday out of FG range.

That game will look like the Chiefs/Bills divisional playoff game compared to next weeks NE vs the Giants thriller.

Is it me or are even the best QB's struggling big time in a lot of these games. Burrow & Jackson's bad INT's were huge in their teams losses today. Even Stroud who put up good numbers had 3 TO's and almost gave the game away with a terrible 4th quarter INT.

As Greg Cosell reminds us: "if you need your QB to be great every game then you have a problem and it's not your QB."

The Chiefs are also winning because they have a much better O line which allows them to have at last the semblance of a running game. They also have better offensive coaching and schemes to enable them to play true complimentary football with their D. But my point here was to provide another compelling bit of evidence showing us that Allen is not the problem here.

Fine then how about people stop blaming Allen & the Offense when they don't produce enough points to win the game? At a certain level I don't disagree with what you're saying but consider exactly what McD is asking: * He wants the O to operate in a manner that they are not very good at. In a manner they were not built for. * And McD is asking this of an offense that has been treated like a red headed step child in FA & the draft over the last 5 seasons. An offense that has not been prioritized until this seasons draft. Seems to me that you do what you can with the D and allow the O to operate in a fashion that is most likely to produce points. The alternative as we have plainly seen is not working.

To be clear I'm saying that the Bills organization is not doing enough to FULLY EXPLOIT Allen's unique skill set and elite QB play. Allen has already been wildly successful.

Defensive injuries also contribute to the offenses woes in the following ways: * Limit offensive possessions by allowing other teams to go on long time consuming drives. * Reduces the number of 3 & outs which allows an opponents defense to rest and be coached up before facing the Bills O. * Failing to stop teams when they're pinned back near their end zone allowing them to flip the field and put the O in bad field position. How many times have we started drives inside the 10 yard line the last few weeks? * Failing to generate TO's giving the O short fields. * But the most critical thing the Bills defensive injuries do to hurt the Bills O is damage a defense that the majority of draft picks and FA money has been committed to at the expense of the O. You see McD/Ben have prioritized the defense over the offense for the last 5 years. So when you lose a bunch of D starters the impact on the team is much greater.

I think Harbaugh would be a great coach for the Bills. He checks off all the boxes the most important being that he comes from the offensive side of the ball. IMO the next 2 games will tell the tale. Anything less then 2 - 0 and Pegula should reach out to Harbaugh to see if there is any interest and under what conditions the guy might take the job. Sure this is risky as parting ways with McD at the end of the season in favor of Harbaugh might simply accelerate the decline and dump the Bills in the toilet real fast. But I would prefer risking a complete collapse and rebuild then the slow decline that we're experiencing now. Give me death by guillotine over death by a thousand cuts any day.

Your metrics are screwed up. If the franchise is unwilling or unable to construct an offense around their elite QB that can deliver more wins & a #1 overall seeding then it's foolish to use those criteria in judging that QB. Allen has already shown he can win the biggest games and raise his play to the stratosphere in the playoffs. The fact they haven't reached a SB yet has NOTHING to do with Allen and everything to do with the Bills coaching and defensive performances. To suggest that Allen is holding the Bills back is comprehensibly wrong. Without Allen this team is at best 3 - 6 today with no hope of turning it around this season or at anytime in the foreseeable future.

What has changed? Opponents coverage schemes and their willingness to stick with them. Also other teams recognize that the Bills don't really have anyone who can stretch the field with blazing speed.

Funny how we get accused of "hero worship" for defending Allen on 2BD. As you note the stats are pretty clear that Allen is having a very strong season. Over my professional life I've found that most problems can be explained by 2 or 3 big issues that if resolved fix the problem. My objective assessment of the Bills offensive limitations involves coaching, O line & skill players and more broadly that the Bills have focused the lions share of the teams resources on the D rather then the O. Getting more out of Allen wouldn't make my top 5. Every time I read something like this the Greg Cosell quote pops up in my mind: "if you need you QB to be great every game then you have a problem and it's not the QB."

I agree that Taylor and the Bengal's O coordinator together are scheming their O better then Dorsey is for the Bills. And it's a lot easier for Burrow to run his offense better then Allen runs his because Burrow has a much better O line, RB & WR group to utilize.

If you are trying to diagnose the problems facing the Bills offense Allen is the least of those problems. Sure he could play better as any player could but if I had to prioritize the top 5 issues the Bills O faces Allen would not make the list. And imagine if instead of Miller the Bills had signed Hill or McCafrey? Or that they had used one or two of the three first round picks from 2019, 2021, & 2022 on an O lineman or skill player?

I wouldn't but what the author of this article didn't really address was to what extent are these offensive moves part of McD's grand design over how he expects Dorsey and the O to compliment his D? A few weeks ago I would have said that McD was allowing Dorsey to run the O with minimum interference and that the inexperienced Bills OC was learning as he went and offensive production would improve as time went by. But recent McD comments in both written articles and on the field/post game interviews have caused me to consider that Dorsey is trying to do exactly what McD wants him to do. And IMO that changes everything. Thinking back to the off season the constant drum beat out of One Bills Drive of "Allen must run less" and "take what the D is giving him" takes on new meaning. I thought at the time i was overstated given that the team had finished 13 - 3, won the Division, won a playoff game and lost in the Divisional round as much because of bad D as bad O. Particularly when you consider that the O was in the top 3 of every important statistical category. I now have to consider what increasingly the evidence pints to: the offensive struggles we're seeing today are the direct result of the strategic & tactical decisions made by McD/Bean in the off season.

But that would require the D to reliably make some stops particularly early in the game. It seems to me that McD wants to have his cake and eat it to: Score a lot of points AND hold on to the ball for long periods of time protecting the D. Of course that is hard to do when your offense isn't built to do it and you've spent the last four seasons directing the lions share of your high draft picks and splash FA signings to the D over the O. I know I sound like a broken record on this point but IMO it's the reason for almost everything the Bills are experiencing today. They made a fundamental strategic mistake in how to build a team with an elite QB in the current NFL. And I am becoming increasingly worried that there are no quick fixes