CincyBillsFan

Gone Hollywood!

But the reason Shanahans is better is that CMAC is running the play. LB's overcompensate trying to keep track of the guy.

NO.

No but he would have 2 just like Mahomes.

Kincaid is blocking a lot better them most of us thought he would. There were a couple of great examples in yesterday's game.

That was great watching the highlights with comments from a foul mouthed Horshack!

The fake punt was very predictable. I was in a room with 3 other Bills fans and we said that they needed to watch for it because if the Jets gave the ball back to Allen it was game over. None of us were shocked when they attempted the fake. What shocked us was that it worked so well. Sure it worked out in the end thanks to Allen but please, this is exactly the failure of imagination on the part of McD that bites us in the butt several times per year.

Yes there were and in one brutally incompetent coaching decision from McD and his staff and this game is one TO away from turning into a disaster. McD is good for this crap at least once in most games.

McD has to go. Period end of sentence.

At least 4

16 - 6 and dude, that coaching decision by McD and his staff not to be on the look out for a trick play there is all I need to see. Romo was incredulous that the gunner had only had one guy covering him.

McD is a menace. Everything thing bad coming after that fake punt is on the head coaches inability to have instructed his ST coach to be on the lookout for that kind of play. The Jets are desperate with the season going down the toilet. McD simply can't think out of the box. His game time tactical decisions are incredibly bad.

This is the kind of thing that factors into whether a coach & GM keep their job.

In 2019/2020 the Bills made a choice about how they would build their team with a superb franchise QB at the helm. They chose the path that would have worked in the 1990's through 2010: let your QB elevate a pedestrian group of offensive players and focus your resources on creating an elite, shutdown defense. And for a couple of season's it sort of worked with a 2020 trip to the AFC championship and if not for "13 seconds" a likley SB trip in 2021. Both of these were on the back of great play by Allen. Though concern had to be expressed that the defense was not rising to the occasion in the playoffs with only one dominant performance in 6 playoff games to that point. But now we can see that this choice, which has potentially squandered a generational talent at QB, has failed utterly. While the Bills were following one script the teams that have been going to and winning SB's have following another script. One that involved concentrating as much skill player talent and the best O line possible around their elite QB's: The Rams, the Chiefs (who set the template), the Bengals, the Eagles and Tampa Bay. Hell, even in our division we've apparently been eclipsed by Miami which has followed the correct script with a lesser QB. We can argue about Allen, or Davis, or the play calls or whatever but it's like arranging the deck chairs on the Titanic as it goes down and ignoring the role of the iceberg.

The Bills have no real vertical threat and no big bodied WR that can turn 50/50 balls into 90/10 balls like D Hop can. For some reason that remains more mysterious then the birth of the universe the Bills can not execute a screen pass. Which of their RB's over the last 5 seasons could take a game over? How many sacks would this O line have given up if Joe Burrow was back there in shot gun? Is it any wonder that Allen is down after watching the Bills stand still relative to their biggest AFC rivals in the conferences offensive arms race? At what point does relying on lower draft picks and other teams cast offs & back up players to build the Offense just get depressing? Sure they took Kincaid in the 1st round this year and it's about freaking time. And guess what that may be one of the few positives we take out of this season.

I agree with much of this. You know that in the off season Allen talks to his dad, brother and maybe some other close confidants about how things are going in Buffalo. I can't believe that the conversion doesn't steer into the territory that you call out: the Bills not committing enough resources to the offense. Particularly the O line. How can Allen not look at what the other top contending franchises are doing to equip their franchise QB's with the tools to have a highly effective offense and wonder why not in Buffalo? Consider division & AFC rivals Miami & Baltimore over the last 2 seasons. Both have made comprehensive efforts to deliver to their QB's the best possible complimentary coaching & offensive talent. Sure KC is struggling with inferior skill players like Buffalo but no one doubts that the Chiefs have a better O line and offensive coaching. And is there any doubt that during the off season the Chiefs will move heaven & earth to resupply Mahomes with top end play makers? Honestly, I can see why Allen looking at where the Bills have prioritized their resources since 2020 and not be a little depressed.

The Cowboys don't seem to be nearly as formidable on the road as they are at home.

Different things: * The defense comment was in response to your talking about the Bills being ranked 19th in total plays as supporting what the Manning's said. My point is that this season the D has probably had the biggest impact on why the Bills have a reduced number of total plays. * I took the snarky Manning comments to indicate an Allen problem that went beyond that one game. But even in the Denver game the Bills 2nd drive was 8 plays that ended on an INT that should have been a 1st down at the Bronco's 12 yard line. That drive alone would have been 9 or more plays had Davis just caught the ball. And for what its worth two of the three Bills drives involved 8 & 7 plays respectively.

Offensive plays per game is not the same thing as Allen's willingness to have the patience to go on long drives by taking what the defense is giving. Offensive plays per game is influenced by 3 & outs, TO's and especially the defenses ability to get the opponents offense off the field. In the Giants game the Bills had only 3 possessions the entire 2nd half scoring 2 TD's and a Knox drop from ending the game in the NY red zone taking a knee. Probably the factor most limiting the number of plays the Bills O is running per game is defensive shortcomings where since the Miami game the D has very few forced TO's and 3 & outs. To be clear I agree that McD understands the X's & O's of an offense what I think he doesn't understand are the subtle intangibles that go into how players function and either thrive or struggle within an offense.

He's actually gone in the opposite direction as he took over the defense and has extensively meddled in the offense. This probably comes form his take away of the "13 seconds" fiasco in KC. If must think that if only he ran everything the Bills would have won that game.

The problem with McD, as I believe he is behind this with support from Bean (after all Bean needs Allen to stay healthy & productive for 10 - 12 more years for CAP reasons) is that because he doesn't understand offenses & QB's in the way that Reid or McDaniel does he assumed he could change Allen without losing a step. The goal should have been to tweak Allen's style of play not change it. This is what DaBoll was doing and Dorsey was not. But in defense of Dorsey he was likely simply following McD's orders here. If Brady isn't free to run this offense in the way he sees fit then he to will fail.

The problem I have with comments like this from Manning is it doesn't reflect reality and is simply snarky. Since I remember a lot of long Bills drives I wondered what the hell Manning was talking about. So I went back and just looked for any Bills drive that ended in points (FG or TD) that was 9 plays or longer. I choose 9 as that is a pretty long drive IMO. Here's what I found: * Long Bills drives have been evenly spread out over the season and Allen has had at least one in every game. * The total number of long drives is = 23. * The longest was for 17 plays. * The long drives have been: 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 9, 10, 10, 10, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 11, 12, 12, 13, 15, 15, 17 So is Manning being fair or does Allen know he can have long drives?

But the threat of legit big play WR's must help the Ravens running game.

This kind of explains some of your Allen posts.

The officiating tonight has been brutal. They're are calling some ticky tack stuff at critical moments in the game.