CincyBillsFan

What do you think Allen would have done to our Defense tonight? It would not have been pretty. In fact, the Bills win this game if it's at home. Next year they must grab the #1 seed.

It was a routine NFL catch IMO. Watch the replay and Allen put the Ball exactly where Kincaid could catch it which was incredible under the circumstances of that throw. Do you know what the drop reminded me of? The Clay drop late in the Miami game during Allen's rookie year. The good news though is I still think Kincaid is going to be a great TE for the Bills.

I disagree. If Allen had played his C+/B- game tonight the Bills would have lost by 3 scores. The fact that the O line and Kincaid had that last drop were the reasons Allen didn't play an A/A+ game. But from the QB stats, offensive production and clutch TD dives Allen clearly played an A- game.

To say the D "wasn't the issue" is insane IMO. The Chiefs defense is their strength. Our offense went toe to toe with them all night and acquitted themselves well. In contrast the D started and finished poorly.

Yep and after that he was quite good leading the O to 4 TD's and a FG. Pulling off key TD drives, one at the end of the 1st half and one in the 4th quarter when the Chiefs took a 29 - 22 lead, to keep the Bills in the game. And even on the 4th & 5 in the face of a Spags mega blitz Allen made an incredible throw that should have been caught for a first down at the KC 25 giving us a great chance to win the game. The nitpicking of Allen I'm seeing here makes no sense and ignores the real reasons the Bills cant get over the hump. The fact is that if Allen is no longer out there due to injury or he moves on to another team the Bills are a 7 or 8 win team that isn't in the playoffs at best. The real issue and overriding concern is why can't the Bills organization put a better team around Allen. My goodness just a little bit better and we would be going to and winning multiple Super Bowls.

A lot of NFL fans remember each and every one of those guys. This is absolutely true and supported by the stats. That Allen is only 7 - 6 in the playoffs with the numbers he's put up is a powerful indictment of the rest of the organization.

He will be to well represented in the QB record books to be forgotten. In the end even if he never actually makes a Super Bowl his continuous playoff successes & close losses combined with his record setting play both in the regular AND post season will keep Allen in the minds of a lot of NFL fans. He will be a cautionary tale for any future spectacular QB's who are fated to be in an organization that just couldn't get it done. You are spot on my man. If Allen continues doing over the next 5 years exactly what he's done so far he will be a first ballot HOFer.

He threw two bad passes to start the game and then was outstanding the rest of the way leading the Bills offense to 4 TD's and a FG. And for the record Allen was NOT intercepted on either of those two throws. DB's drop INT's in every game. Why are you throwing out a crazy coulda/woulda/shoulda for those two passes? It makes no sense to me. Why you're focusing on this one series at the start of the game is beyond bizarre. IMO it's a new low in Allen hate. Allen was not the problem in this game not even close. He and Cook were the strengths of the team tonight and were the two players most responsible for putting us in a position to win. Without their great play KC would have won tonight's game by 3 scores. And you would have a lot more credibility if you showed as much anger at a defense that allowed KC to go 90 yards in 9 plays on their opening TD drive then a couple of poor Allen passes to start the game off.

This is a conference championship game on the road against the two time defending Super Bowl champion with a top 5 defense. The offense can not be expected to score points on every position in that situation. Had the Bills D played half as good against the Chiefs O as the Bills O played against the Chiefs D the Bills win this game. The simple fact is that the D was 90% responsible for the loss and the O was 10% responsible.

It only defines his legacy to those that have little or no knowledge of the game of football.

The fact that each of the Bills opponents in the 3 playoff games scored TD's on their first possessions is a real problem.

It's a bullet proof indictment of the Defenses poor play in both games.

The reality is that the defense was 90% responsible for the loss and the offense was 10% responsible. Yet we have Bills "fans" blaming the O. The fact is that in the off season they must fix the defense whch means that beyond signing Cook & Shakir to extensions the FA money is going to go to the D. The O will have to depend on the draft.

Is Spags available? And why would I think an assistant GM would be better then Bean. I get that this is frustrating beyond belief and I have this sinking feeling that McD/Bean are never going to get the Bills over the hump BUT McD/Bean are at least a top 10 head coach/GM combo, and maybe even top 5. The problem is that the better combo's are making it to the Super Bowls (with the exception of the fluky Bengal's season). The odds that the Bills go backwards if they walk away from McD/Bean are pretty high IMO. But it's all a moot point given that there isn't a snowballs chance in hell that Pegula will fire McD/Bean. It ain't happening. I believe, maybe hope is the better word, that the Bills have reopened their Super Bowl window. They exceeded expectations this season and EVERYTHING is lining up for them to be in a better position next season - from a lot of money for signing players, to a lot of draft picks, a bunch of young improving players and 9 home games the Bills are in a great position for next season. So yea, we're back to "wait until next season".

That the Bills had not created a variation off the tush push in the event a team was successfully stopping it seems like football malpractice to me.

And if the Bills do trade Allen I can predict an outcome as certain as the sun rising in the East: Allen will get to and win multiple Super Bowls with his new team and the Bills will return to the irrelevancy of the lost years.

Here's the problem. All of us watching tonight were calling for McD's head right after the game but then I asked them who would you like to replace McD there wasn't a lot of answers. This week we saw 7 new coaches hired. The only one of those guys I might be interested in talking about would be Vrable. But he's another D minded coach who didn't do as well at TN as McD has done in Buffalo. I mean do any of you want Pete Carrol? The Detroit assistant coaches were the hot commodities but how confident are you that they're actually going to be any good? I'm not. Let's look at who is making the Super Bowls the last few years: * Chiefs: best coaches and 2nd best GM in football. * Eagles: average coaches but the best GM in football. * SanFran: 3rd best coaches and 3rd best GM in football. * LA Rams: 2nd best coaches and 4th best GM in the NFL * Bengals: Fluke. It's not insane to say that McD & Bean may be as high as the 5th best coach/GM in football. Without doubt they're in the top 10. Our only choice at this point is that the Bills have to make it work with McD/Bean. To part ways would be just to risky.

It is not reasonable to expect Allen to have to play his BEST game every week. It will never happen because IT CAN'T HAPPEN. Haven't you been listening to Greg Cosell? Allen played great tonight but he was Batman instead of Super Man. And hell if Kincaid holds on to the ball, as any NFL receiver should have, we would be calling Allen Superman. You better hope that Allen never figures out that the only way hes getting to a Super Bowl is to play like Superman in every playoff game. Because if he does he might decide to get out of town before he turns into Dan Fouts or Dan Marino.

With the exception of the 17 - 3 win over Baltimore in the 2020 playoffs the defense has been the primary cause of the Bills exits from the playoffs that last 6 years. And I include the Houston game where we blew a 16 - 0 lead late in the 3rd quarter.

Seriously who cares? Two shaky throws on the first series? BFD. Allen was making lemonade out of lemons all night long. After today's game Allen is 0 - 4 versus the Chiefs in the playoffs in spite of throwing 11 TD passes and only 1 INT. Allen can not be expected to do more then he's doing in these games.

You mean on the obvious incomplete pass? That was actually a great play on the ball by Bishop. I have a sneaking suspicion that next season Bishop will have a breakout year and become our best 2nd round pick of 2024. I also am nervous that Coleman is going to go in the dumpster. Allen and Brady are going to need to work with a lot in the off season.

This is a great point and a huge indictment of the defensive caching staff. To allow the opponent to score a TD on their opening drive in THREE straight playoff games is football negligence.

Brady was awful in the 2nd half. Sure that first TD drive featuring almost all runs was nice but in that critical 2nd possession when the Bills led 22 - 21 how could Brady NOT run play action passes taking advantage of KC selling out to stop the run? And I agree that Bean better take a long hard look in the mirror tonight. Watching Von Miller do absolutely nothing while Worthy eats us alive is a real problem.

Nonsense. Allen threw a TD on 4th down to tie the game up, converted multiple 4th downs and kept the Bills in the game time after time. That end of the 1st half TD drive was the definition of a winning play. And on his last pass Allen put the ball on the hands of his TE at the KC 25 ad the ball was dropped. There is nothing a reasonable fan could have expected from Allen today. NOTHING. To suggests otherwise is to display a complete lack football knowledge.

Allen faces a terrible dilemma. He is so good that he can lead the Bills to 15 wins, the Division title and reach the AFC championship game with average coaching and an average front office. But will he ever get to a Super Bowl? If the Bills didn't have Allen this would be an 8 game winning, non playoff making team that more closely resembled a team from the Bills lost years then a genuine Super Bowl team. You can see that with just a little bit more the Bills are in the Super Bowl this year and probably 2 of the last 4 years. There is no dominant player on defense and outside of Cook no above average skill player.