CincyBillsFan

I think it would move a lot more if there were Questions concerning Allen's health. My guess is that it's conformation that Johnson is out and the Bills secondary looked very shaky against the Cards.

Cumulatively these numbers shine a spotlight on just how great Allen is. And for those that know football illustrate that turnovers are not the only metric to consider.

And if he slides it becomes 3rd and goal from the 4. Then it's 4th and goal from the 3 and we kick a FG to go up 27 - 20. At this point the last Cards drive only needs a FG to win the game 31 - 30. So yea, IMO he had to hurtle and score that TD which should have locked the game up. The problem is that the ST then allowed a 98 yard TD KO return. So the real issue isn't Allen putting his body on the line but how a Bills unit, through gross ineptness, almost wasted Allen's effort. This has happened to often over the last few seasons.

I just don't see how they pass up a guy who scored 4 TD's - 2 rushing and 2 passing - for a guy who scored one.

And taking snaps from under center.

There ought to be a rule on 2BD that if Allen loses a fumble in a game you must mention how many TD's he scored also no matter the context in whch the fumble is mentioned.

Did you notice the flags flapping madly? It was a very windy day in Orchard Park and you're just not going to throw the ball all over the place.

Unless Rogers lights it up tomorrow night even with the lost fumble Allen is AFC OPOTW. Have people checked out the stat boxes so far? QB's are turning over the ball right and left. Even worse I can't remember a week were so many QB's were under 6 yards per pass (11 and counting).

I would add that through the first two games there seems to be a lot of turnovers by the QB's - 2 lost fumbles and 4 INT's. On top of that I saw at least 3 and maybe more dropped INT's in the two games. Perhaps the D has fully caught up with the shiny passing attacks? If this continues Allen TO's may pale in comparison.

Both things can be true: Jackson is fun to watch and electric where anything can happen at any moment and he's not a very good passing QB.

I'll wait until the end of the season before deciding if Worthy would have been the better pick then Coleman. At present I have no idea even though Worthy had a nice rookie debut. It's also possible that both KC and the Bills got their guy. Each team had different needs at WR: the Chiefs wanted speed and the Bills needed size and a guy who could turn contested 50/50 catches into 80/20 catches. At the end of the season both teams may be thrilled with their rookie WR's. Last night we saw two examples of Worthy's speed: the reverse TD run and the TD catch after the Ravens DB blew the coverage. On the other hand Worthy had no chance on the contested end zone catch. Worthy ended the game with 2 catches in spite of facing mostly single coverage. And I would add that if Allen ran 16 times for over 100 yards all the experts would be telling us how this would not be sustainable. Watch today what they say about Jackson playing RB last night. Most will have a very different take from what they would have had with Allen.

And ditto fr Jackson's fumble. Allen fumbles that ball and that's all they're talking about now.

Collinsworth is reminding me of just how bad an analyst he is. He claims that the only reason the Ravens are in the game is Jackson's play. Yet anyone watching the game can see that it's the Ravens defense, by twice holding the Chiefs to FG'sin the Red Zone then intercepting Mahomes, that is responsible for this being a close game.

How come the KC Tackles can line up in the backfield but the Ravens tackles can't? It's ridiculous seeing how differently this game is being officiated on that particular rule.

Very sure. The play design, by Reid was clever, even better was the choice by Reid to call that play at that time. Nice run by the rookie WR but nothing special.

I'm pretty sure that almost any fast WR would have scored on that play.

That Worthy TD was all Andy Reid.

Funny though my recollection of that game was that while Allen wasn't at his best he wasn't close to being terrible. In fact his only TO was a meaningless INT at the end of the game. If a fight with his girl friend caused Allen not to have his best game then what did the defensive players go through the night before? Their play was the primary reason the Bills lost that game. And for the record who is Diggs to throw stones when he so often disappeared in playoff games and his last game in Buffalo against the Chiefs saw him flat out drop what would have been an 80 yard TD in the 4th quarter.

Well Diggs had the advantage of Kirk Cousins and Josh Allen as his QB's. By the time Samuel got to Carolina Newton was fading fast and after that he was being thrown to by a collective cast of below average QB's. If he stays healthy Samuel, like Beasley & Brown before him, will enjoy the best seasons of his career with Allen.

This.

As good as most predictions I've seen. In fact if during a transition year the Bills go 12 -5, win the division again and advance to the AFC championship game I'm calling it a great success. IMO 2025, with two 2nd round draft picks and a lot of CAP room is the year the Bills win their Super Bowl.

I agree. This writer is an absolute hack with what seems to be minimal knowledge of the players involved. How he doesn't discuss the fact that Allen has played much better in the playoffs is astonishing. That trumps the 2 MVP's for the simple reason that playoff performance is a real thing that can be quantitatively measured. MVP's are a subjective award that involve more opinion then facts.

Don't forget that Allen has also caught a TD pass in the playoffs (against Houston). Watch a replay of that catch and score and Allen took a wicked hit as he crossed the goal line. So Allen's playoff TD to turnover numbers are 27/6 versus 9/9 for Jackson. That's a huge difference which completely eclipses whatever advantages people think Jackson has in the regular season.

And Mahomes accomplished this within the framework of a passing game designed by the best offensive coach in the NFL today and with the best pass catching TE to have ever played the game.

The Bengal's scored 3 points against the Bears yesterday. I would say that was a preseason issue and not a player issue. Ditto for the Bills.