CincyBillsFan

But this is where an upgrade in skill position talent is going to pay HUGE dividends for the Bills. On that drive ALL 3 passes could have and probably should have been caught. Hell, if just one of those passes is caught we have a first down and who knows what comes next. And for the record it's not making excuses for Allen to say this. We all watched the game and there's no disputing that at least one & likely two of those "incompletions" should have been caught. This is a simple problem to fix because it DOESN'T involve FIXING the QB.

The Western NY sports media is very average and I'm being kind. My sense is that a lot of them went all in on the "Allen is a bust" meme ad are having a hard time walking it back. Which when you get right down to it is pretty unprofessional.

This is a hugely important stat that doesn't show up under completion % or TD passes. It's one of those intangibles, like his leadership and over the top athleticism, that has really impressed me so far. And I would be lying if I said I knew he had it in him all along.

This might be a good move. I think BOTH Allen & Darnold benefited from their time on the bench and Lamar Jackson didn't see the field until well into the season. Only Mayfield was advanced enough to come out a play well without a break.

This is a very important observation PT5P because once we reach the point where we don't care what the other Josh is doing it means our Josh is doing just fine thank you. I think the reason folks throw this out when Allen has a good game and Rosen doesn't is that there was so much "hate" for Allen and "love" for Rosen by Bills posters on TBD around the time of the draft. It was over the top IMO. At the time I was a lurker here and not a poster but anyone who claims it wasn't happening isn't remembering things right. But Allen's play has given us confidence that we got the right Josh. Hell, I was rooting for BOTH rookie QB's yesterday because their success has nothing to do with Allen's. But at the same time I can cut folks slack who were on the Allen train in April - they took a pretty good beating on here.

This seems like an important win to me. Not because it mattered in the real world but because talking about draft positioning is all well & good but sometimes losing becomes a habit that's hard to break even after we've upgraded the teams talent. I also think it was an important win because of what it showed us about Allen. He can stand in the pocket and make great throws. He seemed more in command of the offense today then I've seen him all year. The other aspect of Allen's game that was reinforced by today's performance is that the kid doesn't get rattled easily. A couple of dropped balls might be expected to screw with the confidence of a rookie but it doesn't with this kid. In fact I get the sense that he would tell you that he needed to make a better pass rather then blame the receiver.

Exactly right. Great touch throw and great catch.

This type of play calling just blows my mind. Under the circumstances and GIVEN that you gave up an easy 3 points to go for it on 4th & 2 in the 3rd quarter, you needed to approach this last possession like you were behind.

Do you watch NFL games? Because if you did you would know that the deep pass should have been caught. The second pass absolutely should have been caught. And if the WR made a better effort to come back to the ball that 3rd pass would have been completed.

I'm sorry but anyone watching this game with an open mind knows damn well that Allen has thrown the ball GREAT today. His receivers don't give him any help at all. It is not reasonable to expect Allen to make perfect throws every time. I believe that 90% of the WR's in the league make all three of those catches on that last drive.

Two drops in a row are you kidding me! Sure, they would have been good catches but please!

In a way this is how the season has gone for this unit. It's a defenses version of check down passes being used to pad the stats. Sure not a lot of points given up but no TO's. Both times Detroit got into the Red Zone they score TD's. Giving up to many long drives that flip field position. Only 1 or 2 three & outs to generate momentum.

That's what a TE can do. The lack of production at the TE position for the Bills is unbelievable.

It is UN-freaking-acceptable that he juggled that ball. It's bad enough these guys don't make great catches but for crying out loud that was a great throw from the pocket.

And what mistakes has he been making today?

I disagree 100%. Sure they don't want to see him get killed but they're not sheltering him. They are taking what the Lions are giving them.

Allen and the offense did their job by flipping the field. Now the D has to 3 and out the Lions so the Bills can get good field position. Also, did Jones slow down on that deep pass? Judas Priest he didn't look like he was running very fast.

Is it me or has our field position sucked today?

Three runs for 17 yards that resulted in two 1st downs and a TD is quite good for a half.

He has thrown 3 long balls so far: * The first one was a PERFECT throw that forced the DB to tackle the WR or give up a TD. * The 2nd long throw was a great 50/50 shot down field that was on the money and only a half a yard out of bounds. * the 3rd long throw was a pass that a lot of WR's in the NFL make the catch on. Again a well thrown 50/50 ball 60 yards downfield.

Come on that is the type of ball that aggressive, athletic WR's are catching EVERY WEEK in the NFL. That Allen put it where he could make a play on it and yet if intercepted wouldn't hurt the Bills is an example of an excellent throw - both physically and mentally.

Beautiful deep pass on the PI call. If the DB doesn't tackle him it's a TD. Great throw.

I suspect the Lions are focusing on taking two things away from the Bills offense: Deep throws and Allen running. So far Allen had done okay with the short passing game but the Bills conventional rushing game is already running out of gas.

The Bills defense misses Milano. But it's also true that the defensive rankings are very misleading. This is not an elite defense by a long shot.

Lions daring the Bills to run the football which makes sense given the situation. Allen accurate so far. the last pass was not an INT (did not have possession) and would have been the best catch in Rich Stadium this year had he controlled it. Bills offensive line is very bad.