CincyBillsFan

The Bills offense is inconstant now but will it still be in 4 weeks? Given the COMPLETE (9/11 starters) overhaul in personnel and the fact that our QB is only in his 2nd year nobody should be surprised by the inconsistency. Frankly the O is doing better then expected IMO. It moves the football; is deadly in the red zone and has had a number of epic long drives. As an aside, while I'm more optimistic then most Bill's fans, I never had this year pegged as a championship season. We're still not there yet.

Sharpe is to lazy to be disrespectful. If he simply looked at our game recaps he would have seen that prior to the 4th quarter fumble recovery against the Dolphins our D & ST had NOT given the Bill's Offense the ball in an opposing teams Red Zone through the first 5 & 3/4 games! Sharpe is simply an ignoramus. In fact one of the mysteries of the 2019 Bill's O is that while it doesn't produce a lot of points it does move the ball, is surgically efficient in the red zone and has executed a number of very long TD drives.

Last nights game provides more evidence that analytics have only limited value in assessing NFL talent. And they probably have even less value when considering young QB's who have a relatively small sample size. Why do I say this? Because when you develop statistical models designed to evaluate real world situations they must show some degree of accuracy in predicting real world outcomes. Take the PFF ratings: Darnold = 73.9 ranked 13 Allen = 57.9 ranked 31. That's a HUGE difference in their scale. Based on this we would have PREDICTED that Darnold would have played much better then Allen against the Pats. And when you remove variables like home or away (Jets were home) and the weather (weather was good for both games) what's the PFF excuse for their utter lack of predictability here? Just because the PFF guys get featured on the Collin Herd show doesn't mean their models are close to being validated. In the end the PFF folks can't account for Ghosts in the Machine.

What makes Allen's 4th quarter stats even more impressive is that all of it was generated in tight one score games. This wasn't a case of a guy throwing for yards/TD's against another teams prevent defense & back-up defenders. In all these 4th quarters the game was on the line. And that includes the Giants game where Allen led us on a TD drive to boost our lead from 1 to 2 TD's. This data should make all of us very confident that Allen is indeed the guy. This is PROOF positive that he can play QB at an exceptional level. What will be needed to get Allen to do this over an entire game will be much less then what would have been needed to get Allen to be clutch when it mattered. See Mathew Stafford.

If I'm a Jets fan I'm hanging my hat on this. I think he will bounce back. You can't look at this game in isolation but have to think about the excellent game he had a week earlier against Dallas. But with that being said, Darnolds game last night was bad and the margin for error for the Jets is now lower and there's a chance he doesn't recover from this. As an aside those who keep acting as if Allen & Darnold had similar bad games against the Pats are wrong. Allen never looked as lost & helpless as Darnold did. Three of the four Darnold INT's were hideous throws to no one. Allen's 3 INT's were bad decisions but were aggressive down field throws. Darnold's throws last night suggested fear to me. Allen's throws suggested bad judgment and a guy who was pissed off he wasn't hitting big downfield plays. And the Allen led TD drive at the start of the 3rd quarter where he went 6 - 6 for 69 yards was way better then anything the Jets could muster. And if the Bill's offense got HALF the calls that the Jet's Offense got we would have won that game. It really did seem like the refs were trying to help the Jets move the ball down the field with multiple ticky tacky penalties on the Pats D.

I did read it and it was wrong IMO.

Are you still trying to say that Allen and Darnold had equally bad games against NE? Really?

It's like a traffic accident. You know you shouldn't slow down and look but we always do.

Get the kid out of there Gase. What the hell is wrong with you? Booger is right. This is not helping Darnold. He's totally lost it. Those last 3 passes would have been incomplete if the Pats were not on the field.

Allen helped with that very nice 3rd quarter drive. He was 6 - 6 for 69 yards then he scored on a 4th down leap into the end zone. That cut the score to 13 - 10. And while Allen's INT's were bad and represented lost opportunities none of them were in the Pat's red zone nor did any of his INT's give the Pats the ball in our Red Zone. Allen had a poor game against the Pats. Darnold has had an historically horrific game against the Pats.

Was that a LOOOOOOOONG 3rd quarter or what? Outside of being a dick why is Belechick trying to run the score up on the Jets? Darnolds best hope now is that the Pat's score and they go into a prevent defense for the 4th quarter. He can lift his QB rating with some serious garbage time stats.

And while the snap on the safety was high Darnold should have been able to handle it.

No we all realize that Allen had a bad day against the Pats. But Allen did hit on 6 - 6 passes for 69 yards in leading the Bills to a TD that cut the Pat's lead to 13 - 10 early in the 3rd quarter. And while Allen's INT's were bad they were ALL aggressive downfield throws that gave the Pats the ball at around midfield.

Okay I can't help myself but I'm getting another case of schadenfreude! When Allen came out of the locker room he hit on 6 - 6 passes for 69 yards and scored the TD in driving the Bills 75 yards to cut NE's lead to 13 -10. Darnold came out of the locker room and threw a terrible INT. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Exactly right. For a week after the Pats game a small but vocal minority on 2BD hammered away at Allen's terrible INT's against NE. These people used Allen's bad game against the Pats as an excuse to blast him and validate their belief that he's a bust. So yea, what's that German word - shreafeandude - or something like that which expresses our sentiments here. We know that Belichick eats up and spits out young QB's for dinner and we said that in defense of Allen. Well the same thing applies here. We know that this doesn't tell us much about whether Darnold will be a good NFL QB or not. I will be interested in seeing if Darnold can come out of the locker room and take the Jets on a TD drive hitting on all his passes like Allen did.

Memo to Jets: TURN THE DAMN MICROPHONE OFF! Nothing good can come from it.

How about the throw against the Jags last year?

Judas Priest I don't want to hear anyone talk about Allen's INT's against NE. At least they were all aggressive throws downfield. Darnold has had two terrible INT's. One gave the Pats the ball in the Jets Red Zone the other took a FG off the Jets board. This is what Belichick does to young QB's. I suspect that he especially wants to punish young QB's in his division. He's trying to ruin the QB's that could be a threat to the Pats in the future. What an evil freaking genius.

It sure looks like that. Some real ticky tacky calls on the Pats defense.

He's going to need to be ULTRA clutch to get out of this mess.

That's been true. But Jackson has two things going for him: * the new NFL rules against targeting and the ability of QB's to slide to avoid the big hit. * Jackson's sheer speed & athleticism might be enough to keep him healthy for longer then most running QB's. The issue with Allen versus Jackson and staying healthy IMO was always about Allen being so much bigger that he was tempted to run over guys and that's how you get lit up in the NFL. Jackson isn't trying to do that.

I'm not sure about Darnold either. To many unknowns to look 10 years out but if I was forced I would say Allen & Darnold have the best shot at still being around and playing well in 10 years followed closely by Mayfield. Whether Jackson is truly going to change the NFL QB position is still to be decided. Allen's running last year was just as impressive IMO but the Bills seemed to have broken him of that habit. I will say that the ravens with Harbaugh & Roman as coaches will give Jackson the best opportunity to succeed.

And while we're on the topic of Fitzmagic only last year we had: In weeks 1 & 2 playing for Tampa Fitz went 48 - 61 for 819 yards, 8 TD's & no INT's! The next week the magic began to wear off as Fitz threw for 411 yards & 3 TD's but also had 3 INT's and Tampa lost the game. The following week Fitztragic was back as he only threw for 126 yards! I mean no one would believe you if you created Fitz as a fictional character in a novel or movie. I mean Uncle Rico might be more believable!

And I was there the next week when the 3 - 0 Bills lost to the 0 - 3 Bengals and Fitz played poorly. They should have a special place in the HOF for Fitz. I mean has any QB played as well and as poorly as Fitz has for such a long time? It's freakish IMO. But woe to any team that plays against Fitz when he's channeling that magic.

Why not? Last year he threw a very accurate deep ball. I recall a perfectly placed 55 yard pass that went through Fosters hands in the Minnesota game. I remember another perfectly thrown 60 yard pass against NE that Foster "lost" in the sun and went right between his hands. I remember that against LA Allen completed the LONGEST pass play of the 2018 NFL season when just looking at how far it traveled in the air - which was about 64 yards. He completed a deep, perfectly placed 75 yard TD against Jacksonville and a perfectly placed deep 45 yard TD pass against Detroit. In the last game against Miami he had a 29 yard TD pass that was a deep throw because Foster caught it at the goal line. Hell Allen didn't overthrow the deep pass against Miami that Clay froze in place when a couple of steps would have made it an easy long TD catch. I also watched multiple Wyoming games where he threw beautiful deep passes. I have no idea why he's struggling to connect on the deep pass this season but there's NO reason to think he won't get over it and start hitting these deep shots. At least if you go by what he did last year.