CincyBillsFan

I did read it and it was wrong IMO.

Are you still trying to say that Allen and Darnold had equally bad games against NE? Really?

It's like a traffic accident. You know you shouldn't slow down and look but we always do.

Get the kid out of there Gase. What the hell is wrong with you? Booger is right. This is not helping Darnold. He's totally lost it. Those last 3 passes would have been incomplete if the Pats were not on the field.

Allen helped with that very nice 3rd quarter drive. He was 6 - 6 for 69 yards then he scored on a 4th down leap into the end zone. That cut the score to 13 - 10. And while Allen's INT's were bad and represented lost opportunities none of them were in the Pat's red zone nor did any of his INT's give the Pats the ball in our Red Zone. Allen had a poor game against the Pats. Darnold has had an historically horrific game against the Pats.

Was that a LOOOOOOOONG 3rd quarter or what? Outside of being a dick why is Belechick trying to run the score up on the Jets? Darnolds best hope now is that the Pat's score and they go into a prevent defense for the 4th quarter. He can lift his QB rating with some serious garbage time stats.

And while the snap on the safety was high Darnold should have been able to handle it.

No we all realize that Allen had a bad day against the Pats. But Allen did hit on 6 - 6 passes for 69 yards in leading the Bills to a TD that cut the Pat's lead to 13 - 10 early in the 3rd quarter. And while Allen's INT's were bad they were ALL aggressive downfield throws that gave the Pats the ball at around midfield.

Okay I can't help myself but I'm getting another case of schadenfreude! When Allen came out of the locker room he hit on 6 - 6 passes for 69 yards and scored the TD in driving the Bills 75 yards to cut NE's lead to 13 -10. Darnold came out of the locker room and threw a terrible INT. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

Exactly right. For a week after the Pats game a small but vocal minority on 2BD hammered away at Allen's terrible INT's against NE. These people used Allen's bad game against the Pats as an excuse to blast him and validate their belief that he's a bust. So yea, what's that German word - shreafeandude - or something like that which expresses our sentiments here. We know that Belichick eats up and spits out young QB's for dinner and we said that in defense of Allen. Well the same thing applies here. We know that this doesn't tell us much about whether Darnold will be a good NFL QB or not. I will be interested in seeing if Darnold can come out of the locker room and take the Jets on a TD drive hitting on all his passes like Allen did.

Memo to Jets: TURN THE DAMN MICROPHONE OFF! Nothing good can come from it.

How about the throw against the Jags last year?

Judas Priest I don't want to hear anyone talk about Allen's INT's against NE. At least they were all aggressive throws downfield. Darnold has had two terrible INT's. One gave the Pats the ball in the Jets Red Zone the other took a FG off the Jets board. This is what Belichick does to young QB's. I suspect that he especially wants to punish young QB's in his division. He's trying to ruin the QB's that could be a threat to the Pats in the future. What an evil freaking genius.

It sure looks like that. Some real ticky tacky calls on the Pats defense.

He's going to need to be ULTRA clutch to get out of this mess.

That's been true. But Jackson has two things going for him: * the new NFL rules against targeting and the ability of QB's to slide to avoid the big hit. * Jackson's sheer speed & athleticism might be enough to keep him healthy for longer then most running QB's. The issue with Allen versus Jackson and staying healthy IMO was always about Allen being so much bigger that he was tempted to run over guys and that's how you get lit up in the NFL. Jackson isn't trying to do that.

I'm not sure about Darnold either. To many unknowns to look 10 years out but if I was forced I would say Allen & Darnold have the best shot at still being around and playing well in 10 years followed closely by Mayfield. Whether Jackson is truly going to change the NFL QB position is still to be decided. Allen's running last year was just as impressive IMO but the Bills seemed to have broken him of that habit. I will say that the ravens with Harbaugh & Roman as coaches will give Jackson the best opportunity to succeed.

And while we're on the topic of Fitzmagic only last year we had: In weeks 1 & 2 playing for Tampa Fitz went 48 - 61 for 819 yards, 8 TD's & no INT's! The next week the magic began to wear off as Fitz threw for 411 yards & 3 TD's but also had 3 INT's and Tampa lost the game. The following week Fitztragic was back as he only threw for 126 yards! I mean no one would believe you if you created Fitz as a fictional character in a novel or movie. I mean Uncle Rico might be more believable!

And I was there the next week when the 3 - 0 Bills lost to the 0 - 3 Bengals and Fitz played poorly. They should have a special place in the HOF for Fitz. I mean has any QB played as well and as poorly as Fitz has for such a long time? It's freakish IMO. But woe to any team that plays against Fitz when he's channeling that magic.

Why not? Last year he threw a very accurate deep ball. I recall a perfectly placed 55 yard pass that went through Fosters hands in the Minnesota game. I remember another perfectly thrown 60 yard pass against NE that Foster "lost" in the sun and went right between his hands. I remember that against LA Allen completed the LONGEST pass play of the 2018 NFL season when just looking at how far it traveled in the air - which was about 64 yards. He completed a deep, perfectly placed 75 yard TD against Jacksonville and a perfectly placed deep 45 yard TD pass against Detroit. In the last game against Miami he had a 29 yard TD pass that was a deep throw because Foster caught it at the goal line. Hell Allen didn't overthrow the deep pass against Miami that Clay froze in place when a couple of steps would have made it an easy long TD catch. I also watched multiple Wyoming games where he threw beautiful deep passes. I have no idea why he's struggling to connect on the deep pass this season but there's NO reason to think he won't get over it and start hitting these deep shots. At least if you go by what he did last year.

To be fair I think the Bills defense is very good but not quite great. And it's not because they had an off game against the Dolphins. Even the most dominating D's have a couple of poor games. But yesterday was the first time this season that the Bill's D forced a TO that gave us the ball in the opponents red zone. In fact prior to that forced fumble yesterday I think the Bill's D had only forced a TO on the opponents side of the 50 one other time against Cincinnati. IMO to be a great D and not just a very good one the Bills need to force more TO's in opponents territory. They also need to create more 3 & outs when they have a team backed up against their own goal line. Forcing a punt that gives the O the ball at the opponents 45 is almost as good as a TO.

IMO Joe is spot on here. This board would be swarming with folks saying that Allen can't be a long term franchise QB completing less then 50% of his passes no matter how many yards rushing he had. Also Bills fans would be pointing out that the Defense scored 14 of those 30 points and that Seattle likely wins if they didn't have two criminally negligent turnovers for TD's. Now I happen to think that Jackson may in fact work out for Baltimore over the long run. He may be the convention busting QB of this generation. I'm being open minded here. But I have no doubt that Allen would have been crucified on 2BD if he had Jackson's passing & rushing numbers from yesterday.

I think the QB rating is the more useful number here. The Bills defense allowed the Dolphins to steal at least 3 and maybe 4 possessions from the Bills offense. In those earlier games you had a Miami offense that was constantly going 3 & out handing the ball back to the opposing offense. The two 75 yard TD drives in the first half which gobbled up 12 minutes and that epic 10 minute 73 yard drive in the 3rd are the reasons Allen didn't hit 300 yards yesterday and the Bill's O didn't get into a rhythm until late in the 3rd quarter. NONE of the other Dolphin games had their offense do that well over such a large part of the game.

Thanks for posting this. The first thing that jumps out to me when you look at the QB Rating is how much improvement you see in the Dolphins pass defense after week 1. Remember, QB rating is independent of how many passes are thrown. In the 1st game the ravens QB's had ratings of 158 & 144! That was the game Jackson was perfect throwing the ball. After that game I suspect that Flores, a former NE defensive coordinator, took a direct hand in changing a few things to improve the pass D. The result was pretty good: Brady had a rating of 124.7 and then Prescot had a rating of 91.4. Rivers got to 132.9 but then the next two guys were both rated below 100 (95.8 & 99.7). Compared to these ratings Allen's rating of 111.4 looks very solid.

And if you had swapped out Brady for Fitz a couple of weeks ago the Pats blow the Bills out. When Fitz is in his Fitzmagic groove he's one of the best QB's in the NFL for a couple of games until he switches over to Fitztragic. He's done this over & over again. Yesterday was another example of how Fitzmagic can boost a bad team.