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Josh Allen gets record contract extension $330 million
CincyBillsFan replied to The 9 Isles's topic in The Stadium Wall
Allen could have demanded that the Bills pay him 70 million per year, ALL of it guaranteed, starting today and what choice would they have had? You mean at a percent of the CAP that makes Allen the 13th highest paid QB in the NFL at signing? -
Josh Allen gets record contract extension $330 million
CincyBillsFan replied to The 9 Isles's topic in The Stadium Wall
That is an unbelievable discount given to the Bills by Allen. If Allen were actually available and all you had to do was sign him to a contract and he was your QB at least 2/3 of the teams in the NFL would have offered him a 6 year deal at 70 million per year fully guaranteed. And you can throw in every dead beat cousin twice removed. -
Allen's throw in the face of that all out KC blitz in the championship game was the definition of being clutch. Had Kincaid caught that pass, and it was a very catchable ball, all we would have heard was what an amazing and clutch throw Allen made on 4th down to keep that drive alive. And the previous season in the Divisional Playoff game while Jones caused Allen to miss the TD throw that late 4th quarter drive was also the very definition of clutch on Allen's part. Taking up most of the 2nd half of the 4th quarter Allen drove the Bills down to easy FG range to tie the game and possibly force OT with less then 2 minutes left only to see the FG missed. People who claim Allen has not been clutch in the playoffs are not only wrong but IMO are not Bills fans but trolls.
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You want consistency from Allen? How about: * 6 straight playoff seasons * 5 straight division titles * Top 5 playoff stats in NFL history * Hasn't missed a game since 2018 * More total TD's in his first 7 seasons then any other QB in NFL history has scored through their first 8 seasons in the league. When folks said Allen needed to cut down on his TO's that was a legitimate area for improvement. Increasing his completion percentage by a few points is a nice to have that is unlikely to have any impact on the number of season & playoff wins.
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But in 2 of the drives you describe the Bills missed an "easy" 44 yard FG to tie and their TE dropped a very catchable ball that would have kept a potential game winning drive alive. So sure, you can try to squeeze a bit more out of your offense, though I don't see any need for Allen to play better as IMO that would be an unrealistic expectation, the real problem remains the defense. If I had to assign percents I would say the D has been 90% of the problem, the ST's have been 5% of the problem and the O has been the remaining 5% of the problem. Perfection is never going to happen in the NFL. Saying there are problems on both ides of the ball is just a distraction IMO. If Allen and the O play exactly the same over the next 5 seasons as they have over the last 5 seasons but the D improves significantly the Bills will go to 3 Super Bowl games with 2 Super Bowl wins. But if you make the O even better and don't improve the D then MAYBE the Bills make it to a SB in the next 5 seasons only to be blown out.
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And I would argue that even in the Cinci playoff loss the defense was more at fault because given the weather and the fact that it was a home playoff game they came out of the locker room and resembled a tub of butter being cut by the Bengal's hot knife of an offense. Remember how the Bengal's had back to back long TD drives to go up 14 - 0 before the Bills O had even started their 2nd possession. Then after the Bills O clawed their way back to make it a one score game, the D immediately allowed Cinci to go on long, time consuming, momentum sucking drives to go back up by two scores.
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In both these cases you're assuming that the offense scores leaving no time on the clock for KC to respond. Last season, if Dawkins gets a better block on Jones and Allen hits Shakir for the TD there would have been plenty of time for the Chiefs to go down and score the winning TD. This last playoff game it's likley KC would have had some time to score and win the game. After all if 13 seconds wasn't enough then 45 seconds would feel like eternity.
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There are 10 guys around Allen on the field and a coaching staff on the sidelines. Football is different then say Basketball where an elite player can single-handedly win a game. BTW, in the KC/Bills game last season in Rich Stadium even if Dawkins had made the block and kept Jones from pushing him into Allen disrupting the likley TD throw to Shakir what's the over/under on KC going the length of the field against the Bills D to score the game winning TD in the remaining minute and a half? Then you people would be crying about how Allen should have used the rest of the time on the clock and scored the game winning TD. And Dawkins getting pushed by Jones into Allen as he released the ball had nothing to do with not making that play?
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Correct. GunnerBill had a great insight when he called out that the Bills lack the kind of play makers that can rise to the occasion at critical moments in a game. You saw this perfectly the last two playoff losses with: * Diggs dropping a huge 4th quarter pass and then Bass missing a 44 yard FG * Kincaid dropping the 4th down pass and the coaching decision to not have Cook on the field for that last drive.
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I agree with your first sentence then you have to go and ruin it with your last paragraph. Sure, Allen had the ball in his hands those last two games but in the NFL you shouldn't miss 44 yard FG's and drop passes that hit your hands. Sorry, but poor defense has been the key reason the Bills have lost each of their last 5 playoff games. Not the only reason but the main reason. So while I believe like you that Allen has no intention of forcing his way out anytime soon and that he wants to deliver a SB to Buffalo more then anything else, let's see how things look in three years if the Bills continue to exit the playoffs playing bad defense and no one else making a play at a critical time in the game.
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The football trifecta and where do the Bills stand?
CincyBillsFan replied to Sweats's topic in The Stadium Wall
This thought exercise goes a long way towards showing that Allen has not enjoyed the kind of superior trifecta that other elite QB's have enjoyed at different points in their careers. As an aside you could argue that for the Chiefs the trifecta of Mahomes, Kelsy & Hill or going back further Dawson, Garret & Taylor were better then Montana, Allen & Davis -
Let's be honest, Josh probably has 5 good seasons left
CincyBillsFan replied to Steptide's topic in The Stadium Wall
Given what we've seen from Allen on the availability front through his first 7 years I suspect that he is looking more like a unicorn then a dog from a longevity standpoint. IMO 5 years would be the absolute minimum that he's at his best physically, 7 - 8 years seems more likley with a gradual fall off after that. -
This is now on Beane, no question he needs to step up.
CincyBillsFan replied to SoonerBillsFan's topic in The Stadium Wall
Interesting that only Bishop & Davis got a couple of positive comments from the rankings. I didn't know Bishop had 10 tackles in the Championship game. -
I agree. He has every right and in fact an obligation to try to get as much money as he can get. The RB position has been underpaid the last few years and 15 million per year is not crazy given his production. Now if the Bills think they can get similar production from someone else then play hardball with Cook and get someone to replace him.
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I am confident Bishop will turn heads next season after a full preseason/training camp. He actually flashed against the run and unless we sign someone I see Rapp moving to FS and Bishop taking SS. Hamlin would then be a quality back up.
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Because you're the Jets.
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By the conventional standards applied Hurtz was a worthy SB MVP as others have noted his numbers were more then good enough. But for anyone who watched the game the Eagles defense won the SB. Until they collapsed from exhaustion & despair the Chiefs D handled the Eagles O holding them to 13 points until late in the 3rd quarter. If anything Hurtz missed some throws and had a bad INT in the 1st half.