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    Speed: I do the math here

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    A lot of other factors come into play, running 40 yds in a straight line isn’t quite the same with gear on, running routes and tracking the ball. It’s just another athleticism metric.


    from a nbcsprts.com article in March.

     

     

    “Timing of players at the Scouting Combine isn’t just done with stopwatches. It’s also done with chips worn by every player, that tracking their speed during every drill. And last year, that player tracking data showed off the talents of Puka Nacua, a relatively unknown receiver out of BYU who went from fifth-round pick of the Rams to the most productive rookie receiver in NFL history.

    Nacua wasn’t great in the traditional tests of athleticism that the NFL has relied on for decades, recording a 4.57-second 40-yard dash. But the player tracking data showed he was the fastest receiver at last year’s Combine in running through the gauntlet drill, in which a receiver runs across the field and catches seven passes in rapid succession. According to the NFL’s Next Gen Stats, Nacua reached the fastest speed of any wide receiver during last year’s gauntlet drill at 20.06 mph. That tipped teams off that Nacua plays faster than he runs, something that Nacua proved in his rookie year.

    This year, Florida State wide receiver Keon Coleman was similar to Nacua: Coleman ran a disappointing 40 time of 4.61 seconds, but he reached the fastest speed in the gauntlet drill, topping out at 20.36 mph — even faster than Nacua last year. Coleman also reached the second-fastest speed of any wide receiver in his group while running a go route, reaching 21.71 mph.

    The player tracking data is new, and there’s not a long history of being able to study how well it correlates to NFL success. But it may prove that players who show elite speed during the on-field drills that more closely approximate what they do on a football field prove to be better players than the ones who run the fastest in a straight line for 40 yards.

    In hindsight, teams wish they had paid more attention to Nacua’s player tracking data than to his stopwatch time. Coleman will hope teams remember that during this year’s draft.”


    He’s not SLOW …. He has athleticism & speed in the context of the game.

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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    45 minutes ago, Bills aPHILLYate said:

    The expectation and direct comparisons shouldn't be based on  emotion and attachment to your personal attachment to a player you wanted. 

    I'm not trying to be sarcastic. This is my sentiment to all the detractors and downers.

    I personally wanted AD but I'm not devaluing the pick because of the name.

    There are plenty of traits to justify the selection.

    He’s a better pick vs AD who spells trouble with a cap T.  I still think we could have worked a deal here, dropped a tad and still got him.

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    Rd 2, Pick 33: WR Keon Coleman, Florida State

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    3 minutes ago, Eastport bills said:

    All the draft specialists on this board should understand 73% of the receivers drafted in the 1st round since 2014 washed out and never got a 2nd contract. No one knows who translates into a productive player. I do know Keon is a physically tough receiver that will dominate on 50/50 balls and reminds me of Keenan Allen.

    What’s the percentage in round 2?😉

    Who do you want with our first pick in 2nd?

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    39 minutes ago, Playoffs? said:

    People can change. I’m just giving him the benefit of the doubt. Super talented player though..

    Absolutely he’s talented BUT there are huge  red flags; bad attitude, ability to focus attention in meetings & manage his health (he’s an elite athlete) etc…. He’s a grown man, these traits don’t change easily….

     

    Unfortunately he has added baggage and risk.  If we had a solid receiver group I might take a chance but with all our shortcomings @ wr he’s a tough take.

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    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    2 minutes ago, BillsFanForever19 said:

     

    He may very well be the pick.

     

    But as for him always being "their guy" - he wasn't and isn't. "Their guy" to me implies someone that they love over others and had to have. It's clear with how they let WR needy teams have our picks to take WR's that they weren't worried which WR they took. 

     

     

    I've been notoriously against McConkey. But that was in comparison to Thomas, Legette, and Worthy - who I felt we'd have a shot at. We did and we passed on them.

     

    At this point, i'd take McConkey over anyone but AD Mitchell. For who's left, I'd be disappointed if we went WR at 33 and it wasn't Mitchell or McConkey. If it's Franklin or Coleman, I'd prefer another move down and would only be fully on board if Mitchell and McConkey were off the board.

    Too many red flags with AD Mitchell. Health and character. If an adult can’t manage his health, takes plays  off and has been rumored to have attitude problems ..  hard pass.

    The Bills are on the clock: Pick 33

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    4 minutes ago, LabattBlue said:

    You ready to pay Aiyuk $25-30m(maybe more) per, plus the draft capital to acquire him?

    He would be expensive.  A proven receiver isn’t coming free or on the cheap.  Any wr left on the board here is a big risk…

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