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    Packers @ Eagles in Brazil - Sept 6 at 8:15pm

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    12 hours ago, PayDaBill$ said:

    Another crapy field causing major issues, hope no one get hurt.  NFL still more worried about the $ over player safety.

     

    Can’t stand Rog.

    Well so much for hope… this nonsense with Rog & co chasing a buck has to stop!  Unfortunately their goal is 16 international games a season.

    Coleman Route Speeds

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    23 minutes ago, Malazan said:

     

    yea, well use whatever fancy numbers you want! 40 yard dash time is clearly directly related to NFL success. I mean, here, look at the top 40 yard dash time in history:

     

    John Ross (2017) — 4.22 seconds
    Henry Ruggs III (2020) — 4.27
    Marquise Goodwin (2013) — 4.27
    Tyquan Thornton (2022) — 4.28
    J.J. Nelson (2015) — 4.28
    Jacoby Ford (2010) — 4.28
    Darrius Heyward-Bey (2009) — 4.30
    Velus Jones Jr. (2022) — 4.31
    Parris Campbell (2019) — 4.31
    Andy Isabella (2019) — 4.31
    Curtis Samuel (2017) — 4.31
    Calvin Austin III (2022) — 4.32
    Will Fuller (2016) — 4.32
    Trey Palmer (2023) — 4.33
    Danny Gray (2022) — 4.33
    Mecole Hardman (2019) — 4.33
    DK Metcalf (2019) — 4.33
    Phillip Dorsett (2015) — 4.33
    Brandin Cooks (2014) — 4.33
    Mike Wallace (2009) — 4.33
    Bo Melton (2022) — 4.34
    DJ Chark (2018) — 4.34
    John Brown (2014) — 4.34
    Tavon Austin (2013) — 4.34
    Ryan Swope (2013) — 4.34

     

    Obviously, a who's who of the hall of fame. Now take a look at some guys on the lower end of the times:

     

    Jerry Rice 4.45 (4.7)
    Sterling Sharpe 4.44
    Devante Adams 4.56
    Wayne Chrebet 4.53
    Lynn Swann 4.5
    Dez Bryant 4.52
    Al Toon 4.65
    Antonio Brown 4.56
    Cooper Kupp 4.62
    Chris Carter 4.63
    Larry Fitzgerald 4.63
    Terell Owens 4.45
    Steve Largent 4.70
    Mike Evans 4.53
    Brandon Marshall 4.52
    Hinez Ward 4.55
    Brandon Lloyd 4.65
    Kennan Allen 4.7
    Chad Johnson 4.57
    DeAndre Hopkins 4.57
    Jarvis Landry 4.77
    Allen Robinson 4.6
    Laveranues Coles 4.48
    CeeDee Lamb 4.5
    Kelvin Benjamin 4.61
    Anquan Boldin 4.71
    Deebo Samuel 4.48
    Brandon Aiyuk 4.5
    Reggie Wayne 4.5
    Plaxico Burress 4.59

     

    I think everyone owes @KDIGGZ an apology before he hurts himself twisting himself into knots saying he wasn't equating 40 yard dash time to NFL success. Goalposts are very heavy and difficult to move.

     

     

    KD is obviously all butt hurt because they sent the problem child drama queen packing. Good riddance. Love Coleman’s attitude!

     

     

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    Speed: I do the math here

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    1 hour ago, mrags said:

    Again. The argument wasn’t about who is better. Or who will be better. The argument is about the fact that 9ft is a hell of a lot of distance in a span of 40 yards. It is a fact. 

    Sure but in the context of a the game a 40 yd sprint only tells a fraction of the story.  It been proven repeatedly that slower wr using the 40 yd metric have had very successful careers.

    Speed: I do the math here

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    16 hours ago, KDIGGZ said:

    I think a lot of people are getting upset that people don't like how slow he is. It's fine, he was successful while being slow in college and he will probably be an ok player in the NFL. The point is he had a glaring weakness vs others still available at the time he was drafted. If he was drafted in round 3 this wouldn't even be a discussion, we would be happy with the pick (most of us).

     

    We passed on Worthy who has speed you need to plan for, McConkey who has the speed AND route running, Leggette who has the speed AND size, and AD Mitchell who has every single tool available and might have a bad attitude but please tell me which superstar WR is pleasant. Coleman might end up being an upgrade over Gabe but there were other options available so it's a head scratcher.

    Stop it’s not like any of the guys you mentioned were a lock. All had warts.


    The 40 yd time is a component of an evaluation not the entire picture.

     

     

    Speed: I do the math here

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    16 hours ago, OldTimer1960 said:

    I’m not really arguing against your original point, just wanted to add that quickness, route running skill and acceleration are as important or more so as speed.

     

    The gauntlet speed point is questionable in my mind - the gauntlet is not a speed competition.  Players aren’t competing to see who can run it fastest.  It IS encouraging that he could ripen it fast and show good hands. do they time it then?

    They are now timing it, so quickness factors in this test.  This dude was also a 3 sport athlete. He’ll be fine!

    10 hours ago, mrags said:

    Is that like 4.61 on almost as fast as 4.3 in the 40? If it’s only 8 feet then it’s more like 4.61 is almost as fast as 4.35. Or somewhere in there. I’m not a mathematician like the OP or you apparently. 
     

    but I do know that 10 feet is a significant distance in a race as short as 40 yards. 

    Your’re so ridiculous with this nonsense.  
     

    It’s funny  how a slower 40  didn’t stop Puka from being an excellent wr. It’s also interesting how everyone was wondering why their fave team missed on him.  
     

    I didn’t like AD with his issues, Franklin dropped like a rock and XW is the size he of a middle schooler.  We did ok.

     

     

    Speed: I do the math here

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    3 minutes ago, KDIGGZ said:

    That's the difference between open and not open

    Lmao speed queens.. 😉the games not played on a straight line in gym shorts. 
     

    Read the article above!

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