ProcessTruster

so who gets cut to pay for him

Gronk will be too expensive. Knox is the man. There will be other options to back up Knox that are far less expensive.

Agree. Trust the Process of simply improving your overall roster year after year, mainly via the draft. Especially with a 40m cap hit from one guy. They had the SB this year, the ST coach pooped the bed at a critical moment in a single elimination tournament game. The SB roster is there now.

hard to argue with Steeler fan loyalty the way they show up at away games... amazing the in stadium experience seems to have gone downhill over the years. slobbering drunks standing the entire game ranting and raving is not exactly worth a couple hundred bucks per seat (unless you are one of the slobbering drunks)... looks like Heinz fields needs to find 5 or 10k more slobbering drunks to stand and curse for their stadium... shouldn't be that hard. one out of their mind standing-the-whole game drunk can wipe out the game for half a section behind them, driving the need for more slobbering drunks, maybe thats the problem -- one slobbering stand-the-whole-game drunk loses you 10 season ticket holders sitting behind him.. hmmm

don't care, still just wallowing in the wonderful fact the Bills aren't picking 11th for the 9th consecutive year. this good feeling won't wear off for a while offseason is slow

can we get a rule allowing helmet communication with f ing placekicker? how bout that?

if Bills pay a backup any more than they paid MT last year, they are foolish. If JA goes down, we're f'd no matter who the backup is. thats life in the NFL

I don't think QBs under 6 ft can really get a team to the promised land in today's (or yesterday's) NFL. They are crazy to pay him IMO. Just not a believer in little squirt QBs at the NFL level. They had it with Carson Palmer and just didn't get it done.

Oops, off by a year there-was more focused what the long term contract extension offer would be. That’s the moment of truth and the real issue

yep, we are 'violently agreeing'... if Beane can trade him for good value now and they feel good enough about Dodson, then yep get value for him now. he likely leaves in FA anyway as a team will top what Beane is willing to pay for him. they got 4 years of decent play from him in this particular defensive scheme; he ain't no Thomas Davis or Luke Keuchly, so just plug another 1/11th in there and spend your cap passing and defending the pass. yep. which is pretty much where Nolan comes out .

agree. Edmunds is, as Nolan points out in the podcast "Fine" in his role, but he is not essential. so don't pick up his 5th year option (saves $10m+ cap space at least), offer him Milano $$ (hey Milano took it, much to our surprise -- this primarily pass defense scheme prolongs a LB's career, IMO) , play it out and be ready to plug Dodson or a FA in there if Edmunds walks. Edmunds position is not designed to be the centerpiece of this particular defensive scheme anyway (Keuchly was a unicorn). Edmunds agent will stump for Leonard $$, but LBs in the Bills defensive scheme just play their part of the field; not asked to dominate so they get 1/11th type $$; which means their agents probably get guys like Edmunds and Wallace overpaid by some other team to play a dominator role they probably cannot handle. and Beane moves on with well scouted, productive, low cost draft choices and FAs doing just their 1/11th. which works. not as much fun for fans looking for splash plays to make the beers go down better, but whatever, it works. and lasts.

yeah, agree. not stumping for either of them; just offer Edmunds a contract commensurate with his 1/11th role on the defense and leave it at that. If someone offers him Leonard $$ to play the Darius Leonard "superman" dominator run/pass MLB role (which he probably cannot do) then let him take the $$ . Just like Levi Wallace. Wallace and Edmunds are just pieces in a scheme, not asked to be dominant (just do your job). Star, as you say, is a tough one as releasing him will hit the cap hard... McBeanes gotta think on that one... is Star playing only 9 games per season better than taking a $20m (not sure of the #, its pretty big ) cap hit this year.

Lots of bad blood re: Edmunds and Star on this board. Today's "locked on Bills" podcast has Joe Marino joined by BruceNolan talking Bills defense ; so much value there I won't repeat it all here. Marino is big on stats, Nolan is smart and has good takes. Listen to today (Monday). Some smart thinking here that will add a lot to this discussion. For tech phobs out there, just get Stitcher for your phone and search for "Locked on Bills". Not stumping for all of Marino or Nolan's stuff (some of their content is non football or stuff we already know), but this particular episode was excellent.

I think someone with a bottomless, ancient Bills game tape collection should put one of these up every Sunday. Very entertaining (esp one that has all the commercials recorded as well (hilarious). Would make the offseason more tolerable. Just any game, garden variety. Would be fun.

Paying out the giant SB is what can change a great player into a fat, satisfied player. Beane has been wise to minimize this.

forgot Reggie McKenzie was still playing in 1980 . wow. those early season warm weather home games are great.

McD not putting a guy like that on his team

yeah if they cut him, we sign him for whatever we want. that is the attraction.

Watson to phins. not even close. he would transform them

no bad guys please. esp what he did

Yep, Roch is where most of the PSL - paying fan base will be found for the new $billion stadium, not so much buffalo. team needs to think long term

I think Edmunds and Milano are perfect for a base nickel defense. Keep everything in front of you, deny the big play, run the width of the field, force all passes to the middle, do not attack , make them go the length of the field if they can. Drive fans crazy bc no splash plays. Then fans get pissed at the players, but it's the "boring" (from a watchers perspective) scheme they should be pissed at. Only KC, Brady and Rams (superior talent, O schemes) have really been able to (barely) beat it. There is no "middle linebacker" in this defense. It's a total team defense scheme, everyone does their part and it works. No one player is asked to dominate, quite the opposite. What this means is Edmunds doesn't get top LB $$, as he is not asked to be a dominator, just a piece of the puzzle on D. So there's that benefit. His agent will be just as pissed as fans are, bc the defensive scheme appears to limit what Edmunds is asked to do by design.

this could be it for 33 yr old Taiwan Jones. Too bad the worthless ex ST coach didn't give him a shot at glory in the 13 seconds.

hey if Star plays well for 14-15 games this season (and he has to ability to do exactly that), all will be forgiven

can't imagine McBeanes are suddenly giving up on #1/#2 draft choices Basham, Groot and Epenesa to go chase an uber-expensive shiny object.