WideNine

There were a lot of these that could have been handed out that game. The coaches had our boys ready and with the right mindset and attitude. "Don't expect a team to ever give you a win, you have to go out and take that win from them on every play." I think D. Jones putting their Center on skates and flattening Tua ranks right up there. I have seen a lot of awkward OL play in my years, but the way that dudes legs were sprawled out and his toes pointing out, leaning into Jones with everything he had as he skidded backwards - it was like he was trying to stop a bus rolling over him. With the same results.

OMG "...like he was playing in wooden shoes." That cracked me up 🤣😂

Yep. They had that tip drill over the middle that should have been an easy INT, but was tipped and redirected right to Waddle instead to keep the drive alive - I think that drive ended in an Achane score.

Sorry bud. I took that a bit far... believe what you want and it is all good. Enjoy the Bills win.

Some gems from that article of facts: "The takeaway here is that once we’ve accounted for a team’s quarterback capabilities through PFF Grade (because that is always spot on), rushing rate and rushing performance relative to passing stats doesn’t tell us much about the effectiveness of their play-action usage." I read that statement as more a lack of meaningful stats than a conclusive correlation one way or another between effectively running the ball and play action. Watering down the data creating a large sample size, individual team performance metrics (can they stop the run with their front 4 or do they have to commit more defenders...), situations like down and distance irrelevant because we all know play action on 3rd and short is just as effective as play action on 3rd and long right? The point here is that an NFL defender’s instincts are built on the foundation of those formative years. For that reason, NFL teams don’t need to establish the run, because the threatening nature of it has already been instilled throughout the amateur ranks. (All facts here folks and no conjecture - who am I to argue with a guy who clearly never saw Edmunds play the run) and lastly for the very folks that argued that you never need to run the ball at all - your article said this. Obviously, if a team only ran play-action and never attempted to run the ball, defenses would begin to adjust. Begin to adjust 🤣 I am overwhelmed by the sheer factualness of this article.

Yeah - I saw that. We can get into some crazy debates here. I guess some folks are saying if you never manifest the threat of a run it is the same effective threat - perhaps, but I think there are degrees of threats and how much reaction they garner. Guy threatening to punch you, a guy who has punched others threatening to punch you, a guy who has already punched you threatening to do it again. Something like that Play action looked good yesterday with Josh executing it from under center. I thought the play action from the gun looked a bit shaky on some of the exchanges and was not sure if they were trying for some RPO??

I feel pretty good about what I think stats can and cannot tell me and I do place a lot of value on trending data as a tool for mapping and using probabilities. I don't see a lot of value getting into the stat debates as I work with enough data analyst that I know they forget to look up sometimes from the numbers - it is a dead-end waste of time. For being such an infallible predictor the philosopher in me is pleased each and every time someone here or an organization like PFF who are immersed in stats come up wrong in their conclusions and predictions. I will admit it makes me happy when they backtrack, talk about variables they did not factor in, and fail to render completely the game I love a into a joyless control chart. Perhaps they should just exchange statistics and skip the whole game playing thing Meh - so I am old school, and I will continue to trust my eyes and how I think the Bills and their opponents perform in the context of each situation and game.

This. I felt like he was a bit slow getting to his deep coverage responsibilities on a few plays and Po was always great at closing ground. In our system that is what we need from our 2-deep safeties. Need to see if he just needs more time in the system so that he is not processing his responsibilities but playing at full speed. Need to see more before I would think he should be their long-term answer.

Quoting Rex Ruin? Play action is MORE effective if a defense respects your running game and has to account for run defense. That should be a no-brainer. Play action to Derrick Henry made Tannehill look like a great QB because defenses had to respect that running ability and it created a lot of space to hit his receivers. Also, I think we do try some RPO plays, but those have to be strictly rule-based (QB triggers off a read) and clear on timing and execution for whether the QB hands it off or keeps it. Allen is notoriously greedy on those as I think he just feels better about the ball being in his hands to make something out of the play - the defensive reads be damned. So those exchanges result in some exaggerated and awkward handoffs that need to be cleaner.

Truth. They would have a boring as hell offense, but would drag most teams down to the wire where a field goal or broken play would win it. A "W" is a "W" whether you win by 3 or by 40 points. So a team can win with a strong defense and a boring offense that takes care of the ball. Can be like watching paint dry unless you really like watching defensive games with hockey-like scores.

The Jets are the worst match up for us. They can pressure and stop the run with their front 4 and have DBs that can play man or zone if they want to bring an extra rusher. They force offenses to be very patient, and that has been our Achilles heel. I don't expect any offense to hang a lot of points on them so that is just how you have to play them. They have invested so heavily on defense that the kind of offense they can run is limited. They nailed a very good running back and if he had stayed healthy their ball control offense would have been a nasty compliment to their stingy defense. Weak sauce on that flag on Sauce last night, but DBs are getting away with a lot of contact this year. Refs can throw the hanky on just about any play and Gardner had a hook on the receiver at his break so got the call. They could throw it anytime and chose that key drive.

I would not be shocked it they have FO folks that scan these sites... free product feedback. Josh said he deleted his Social Media accounts. I am sure players peek now and then, but probably not the healthiest habit to read your own press. Would make the highs too high and the lows too low. Best to ignore the noise.

Not just timing their rush with motion, but we have big tall defensive linemen especially our DEs. There was a concerted effort to keep in Tua's throwing lanes and get the hands up. After a few batted throws and a few that sailed off the mark because he was trying to throw over outstretched hands I think they got in Tua's head a bit. Instead of him releasing the ball on schedule or at the top of his drop he was hesitating and was pulling it down and trying to get to his 2nd read or scramble. That is when Tua and Miami's passing offense comes down to Earth and is susceptible to negative plays like every other offense.

Felt like Knox today was channeling his inner Beast-Mode. He had a few catches where he just ran over Miami defenders trying to keep him from getting to the sticks. Dude strapped them up and came to play.

Some folks here calling Miami a trash team. That is a bit much, but I know folks are feeling good... and we squished the fish. I don't think they're a trash team. They have plenty of talent and should win their share of games and took us down to the wire at home last year in the playoff game. The Bills are better this year I think offensively and defensively. We have a vastly improved OL and RBs, and I think we have a better defense. Where we got stops today they could not stop our offense and we started to pull away. Their offense has not faced a defense that could slow them down or even force a punt. They pressed as most teams do when falling behind and turned the ball over. It snowballed from there. Heck, we had two easy INTs we dropped and a forced fumble they recovered. Could have been even more lopsided. We have the better D and an efficient scoring offense. They are going to have a hard time beating us this year, but they will likely beat up on plenty of other teams.

I felt like Shakir did not need to climb the ladder on that pass. If he kept running I think it was right there... his jump made it a bit more awkward than it needed to be IMO and he had a step on the DB. Shakir has made some highlight reel catches and Allen has thrown jump balls his way before, so not judging him too harshly. Would have been replayed all week if he had put some stick'em on his helmet.

He called a good game and the light has come on for Allen who is looking more short to deep when he sees those two safeties bail and play that 2-high shell. Two check downs today stood out to me. One to Murray on the sideline where he picked up a good chunk of yards, and the lob to Cook where he picked up a bunch. The shots Allen took were more reasonable and surgical. He was not pressing, and he did not take the bait throwing to well-covered receivers. They also stayed committed to the run and play action. I think we could have leaned into more plays to our TEs, but that is just picking nits.

So is the OP saying he found a hold on a Buffalo interior O-Lineman? Gasp.... That is soooo weak and desparate.

They do have so much speed that any broken play can go the distance. Was glad to see we did not let up in the 3rd and early 4th till it was time for the fat lady to start warming up to sing. I think that is a team you just have to keep your foot on the gas, but you clearly saw them deflate when Allen trotted into the EZ untouched.

Hard not to see Marvin Allen's influence - was the Bills National Scout, before that he was director of college scouting for KC, and you can almost see the immediate turnaround with Miami finding very good players in the draft and in free agency when he joined Grier as assistant GM in 2019. Success for a team does make that organization a target for a lot of talent poaching.

Be tough to get back in the game and not have that wing hanging and a lot less range than he seemed to have when he got back. Banged up Bills will have a full plate this week after this game.

He needed to show something... Just saying. He has been a non-factor with the amount of plays that have gone his way on schedule. It was good to see that he still has a little fire in his belly, and he did pick that ball off the turf and found the sticks... I felt like so many players found ways to stack individual wins that they kept the chains moving for the most part and Miami's offense on the sideline.

I was thinking he dislocated his shoulder on that play as he went for the arm tackle and his arm got yanked hard in a bad angle. So to the blue tent, pop it back in, and take something for any pain and swelling. Just a guess.

Really sucks for Tre, but the depth on this team is good. Remember Dane, Elam, and Christian were in a 3-way tie in camp that went down to the wire with Benford winning the role. If Tre ends up out for the season on IR, then I will look for Beane to pickup another depth DB. After last season this front office should be well-versed in doing just this as we were the walking wounded.

I would say we are rated pretty accurately right now and expect a tough divisional game. Last year I felt like the hype got out of hand with our fast start, but this year it has been tempered by that stumble out of the gate and by our shift to more balanced offense, focus on limiting turnovers, and solid defense. Those things are usually not the stuff of splashy NFL headlines, but they win games.