BillsFan1988

I dont know much about this kid but if so talented why the 3rd rd grade?

If Quinnen is on the board when we pk Mcd will do cartwheels all the way to the podium and i will doing them in my house. Lol

I say neither one. Devin White please. DW will be best player in this draft when its all said and done. Drafting White will allow Mcd to move Edmunds where he belongs at OLB.

I was talking bout Sanders and Brown as raw prospects the yr they faced Packers in Superbowl.

Some of these guys u meantioned are not what i will call elite #1 Wrs, DT yea he won a Superbowl and yes he was elite at that time. But Julio, Fitz, Bolden they never won as defacto #1s. Bolden was at the end of his career in Baltimore. Plax wasn't an elite guy he had good seasons but never put up 1600 yds on consistent basis. All teams have a #1 Wr but only a few are truly gm breaker elite status and most of them never won anything. The Steelers had a great Corps with Plax, Hines Ward and Sanders & Brown were young raw prospects at the time not #1 guys but great role players. Even when Rodgers won it with the Pack he did it with a good corps. We can find a Jennings type #1 . Im just basically saying i dont see McBeane going after a diva type guy that wants 10-12 targets again.

I think this is a great topic and i was saying something like this on another post. The comparision is more like pre Mack. Now yes both teams had different stenghts and weaknesses but if had to compare our team with any previous one it would defintely be the Bears.

I agree this draft can and will have #1 wrs but it will take time for these guys to grow into the stars they can be. There's no clear cut #1s from the first day in this draft.

When studying what's available via the draft , free agency and potentially via trade at the Wr position . Iv'e come to the realization that the best way to fix and build our Wr core will be by adding multiple guys that fit as #2 or #3 Wrs in a NFL offense. There is no true #1 Wr available unless u want to give up major assets in return and i dont see McBeane selling our future for a old Wr like Aj Green on his last legs . Matter of fact i believe building a core of 2s and 3s is better then having a true #1 franchise Wr with a solid cast around him. Just look at the facts how many titles does guys like Brown, OBJ , Evans, Aj or even Calvin have ? Zero is the answer . It can be argued that having a target monster is bad for development of a young franchise QB . Because Having a stud diva Wr will put unneccasary pressure on Allen to force feed him . This is usually great for fantasy football but in the real world it stunts the growth of QBs because they tend to focus in on there star instead of going threw there progressions in a timely matter. With that being said its better to have an overall talented core of guys that fit roles. U need your burners , possiesion type chain movers, red zone targets etc etc. Not only does it help your young QB learn how to play his position the right way. It also helps with the way defenses approach stopping u. If u dont have a true target monster for defenses to try to stop and gm plan for then opposing DCs will try to project instead who will be your #1 wr on any givin week. This gives the offense the advantage in my opinion. Having 4 to 5 guys that can be feed on a moments notice puts alot of strain on opposing secondaries. Especially when u go 4 and 5 wr sets because most defenese get really thin at the #4 and #5 corner spots. This will open up some big time mismatches that offenses can exploit. This has bascially been the Pats model when they were winning superbowls in the early 2000s and the Steelers when Ben won his first 2 rings. Last but not least not having a true #1 Wr is also good for your salary cap space as franchise #1s get paid big money in todays NFL. Well if u ask me its basically paying a guy big money to get locked up by opposing # 1 star corners . Those that play fantasy football know this all to well. With all this being said its on McBeane if they follow this model to bring in the right guys to fill the roles they need and to put this recipe to the test and if done right can be beneficial to long term winning in todays NFL.

Were not far off as u think i believe the Bears were a 6-10 team last yr. Yes they had massive turnover this offseason . Which i fully expect the Bills to do. Now there not completely the same situations but they are very similar. Lets not nitpick where the holes were on both teams. Im basically pointing out that they had a top teir D as well as we do. Also had raw but super talented rookie QBs with basically no weapons at the skill positions.

I see 3 moves for Wr #1 via trade Marvin Jones for a 3 or a 4 . #2 Free Agency . Maybe a Chris Conley or Kevin White type low salary guys with potential if givin more reps. #3 Via Draft i expect a move up to late first rd for DK Metcalf or they just wait till our pk in the 2nd rd . There will be a plethora of guys available at that pt.

I defintely see Beane making a few trades for skill position players. WRs, TEs, RBs all on the table. Beane will also attack free agency with non skill postions players mostly on offensive line where we will spend big on 2 maybe 3 players. The defense will defintely get some love too via free agency. A couple possible trade candidates will be #1 Wr Aj Green - I can see the Bengels moving in a new direction this offseason and the Bills will surely show major interest in Aj . Im not sure what it would take to get him but its defintely gonna cost more then Philly paid for Golden Tate which was a 3rd. Aj can cost multiple pks im thinking a 2 and a 4 can possibly get him here. To be honest i dont know if i would do that but McBeane has shown they dont care about age of skill position players as much as other teams do. #2 Wr- Marvin Jones. MJ wont cost much 6.5 mil per yr in 2019 and 20 seasons. He'll be 29 when the season starts. Mj most likely if traded will command at least a 3rd rd pk at that type of cost controlled salary. 13 mil over 2yrs is dirt cheap in today NFL. As a player MJ fits what Beane looks for in a wr he's a deep threat with big time catch radius. If Marvin becomes available the Bills will defintely take a chance on him.

Yea they definetly upgraded his weapons basically getting him all new Wrs and TEs. Like i said im not very impressed with Trubisky but he has gotten better and his team has defintely gotten better around him. The Bills seem to be on the same trajectory as the Bears in 2017 as far as the teams go. The difference is obviously the Mack trade made the difference as the Bears easily went from a team that was likely to win 9, 10 gms to a team that can win 12. With that being said once we add some weapons this offseason i expect the Bills to win 10 gms and challenge for a playoffs spot in 2019. If not McBeane needs to be released of there positions.

He needs to at the very least take a Trubisky type leap. Now im not a big fan of Mitch but he did get better in his 2nd season. Im expecting this from Allen. Not a Mahomes type leap or Goff a Trubisky that should be the goal.

Really it aint gonna matter because its basically Darnold vs Allen . So far i hate to say it but Darnold looking like the better passer of the 2 by far.

its counted as a completion in adjusted completion percentage

There defintely tied at the hip , Beane doesnt do anything without Mcd giving approval.

They were saying the same thing about Adam Gase in Miami after they got the bounces and got into the playoffs in 2016. Look what thats been like the last 2 yrs. U cant consistently win with turnovers and fgs in todays NFL . Mcd is not the answer .

Mcd taking us to the playoffs last yr is equivalent to a homeless man finding a dollar playing the cash 3 winning some money and getting himself some booze, hookers and dirty hotel to sleep in. Lool. It was a fluke. The team was lucky last yr not good.

I say its a debatable 3rd for Allen , Mayfield and Darnold have reached higher ceilings defintely . Please stop with the no help excuse Darnold has really nothing to work with in Ny also.

I agree with what your saying but i hate the buy some other teams philosophy of building because it worked in Carolina. I cant stand that bandcamp mentality. It never works . Teams that build champions build it in there own image. Im rooting hard for Allen and i believe he has the potential to be great but McBeane will ruin him if they want to use him like Cam. Cam is not even 8yrs into his career and already looks worn down from all the hits he's taken in his career. This kid Allen has potential for more and needs the right guys to develop him. I hope McBeane realizes this and develop Allen to be a pocket passer that sometimes only when absolutly neccessary runs. These QB draw plays are amateur and is gonna get our young QB injured at some pt hopefully it wont be something that ruins his career. He had 1 great Mvp type yr. He caught lightning in a bottle . Even Jay Cutler put up great numbers a few times doesn't mean he's elite. Cam is 2nd teir and thats not bad u can win with him but he's not the carry a team on his bk QB .

He's not a bandcamp gold card toting member thats why.

Does anyone here really respect Cam Newton as an elite franchise QB. I think he's a teir 2 QB maybe from 11-15 best in league.

Naw man the Dev will get u a couple firsts. Lol

He's definetly playing out of position. He needs to be on outside for sure. Plus he needs to add bulk and strength.

Sony Micheal. Gronk will at least fetch a 3rd.