NoHuddleKelly12

Not to be repetitive, but we know that the "cliff" is a real phenomenon over age 29 with RB's reaction speeds, bursts, ability to shake off the first tackler, etc. What would make McCoy an exception to this rule? Has his workload been dramatically less than those of his peers from a mileage standpoint? No. Maybe he's incrementally better than the next guy with his nutrition, offseason programs and the like, but I'm not sold. A nice piece from 2015 about this issue for running backs here: https://sports.cbslocal.com/2015/08/25/running-backs-who-can-avoid-falling-off-the-cliff/

I'll say this for your prognostication Donuts--history has shown us that the time to strike the evil empire is early in the season, when they are capable of putting up some duds just like the rest of us, before hitting their mid-season to playoffs form. The first step to victory is to know your enemy right?

Finally a Pats thread we can all get behind as worthwhile...so long as we can come up with the antidote for those “drops” from Giselle’s cauldron. And here I thought this whole time that the only soothsayer we needed to worry about was Alex Guerrero!! What a load of tomfoolery, pun intended. I’m still hitching my wagon to one Josh Allen though—Imho he’ll help put an end to TB12’s divisional reign of terror.

Couldn’t happen to a nicer more model franchise! Over/under on internal drama leaking to Page 6 of the Post is Week 2 of training camp; where is Hard Knocks??

I don’t always take anti-depressants, but when I do, I prefer to take them after reading threads like this .

What a barn burner, one of Cleveland’s proudest W’s to date I’m sure, and was grist for Sully’s mill for years afterwards. Wasn’t that also a DA-led team for the Browns? (really don’t feel like googling that one)

I hear ya. But interesting that of the 55 total plays run by the Bills, the run/pass ratio ended up being 30 pass, 25 rushes. They basically matched the Giants in total yards (371 to 386) even with the Giants running 71 plays. But yes, at the end of the day Thurm should’ve gotten fed more, I don’t really disagree. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Super_Bowl_XXV

For me personally, the 2 greatest games would be September 8, 1991, Bills roll over the Steelers 52-34 (not ever even that close), Kelly throws 6 TD’s, 4 of them to Don Beebe who earns the moniker “Steeler Killer” that day. Kelly ran out of plays to run so literally diagrammed new ones in the huddle like backyard ball, so goes the legend. Second would be the comeback game Jan 3, 1993. Greatest ever, reg season or playoffs. Infamy! Chew on that Brady, you’ve never gone to 4 SB’s in a row and have never brought your team back from 32 down. You’ve got a lot of YouTubing to do bro!

Conversely you could argue that it was exactly because Kelly wasn’t afraid to still throw it that the Giants did not stack the box, thus allowing Thurman the run bursts that he had, including on even the final FG drive to get the Bills in FG range. So what if Thurman was given the ball every play—you don’t think that BB wouldn’t have made the simple adjustment of loading the box? It’s still important to have balance and given that the Bills D couldn’t get off the field, the Bills O was pressing in order to put up points. Not saying that was the right or wrong thing, it just is what it is. Had the kick gone through, then it’s an academic argument, and BB instead of getting a game plan in the HOF, winds up being the next Wade Phillips of close but not close enough that day. And Kelly is then also lauded for the play selection.

How can you not love this? Cade hanging in there, and our QB not treating this like a one-off photo op to look good only in the moment...you can tell he's invested in this kid's progress and remains in touch, accessible for the family. The Allens from Firebaugh raised a good one, imho. Go Bills!!! Kelly/Marino 2.0?

I could've used this time to read through another Pats thread instead.

“Free speech” should not extend to Pats fans on this board.

Make sure you save enough to share with the rest of the Bills backers stuck down here in the A!

Let me help you out with that Augie; February 2, 2020, Hard Rock Stadium in Miami Gardens, FL. Just when do you propose the Bills should take steps to get substantively better this year if not in the offseason?

So did Barry Switzer, but does anyone consider Barry to be a better career coach than HOFer Marv? If Super Bowls were the only measuring stick, then Jim McMahon would also be a better QB than Dan Marino, right?

Smells like victory!

SMH. Don't trust anybody around your kids, period. My wife and I decided a long time ago for instance, that we won't let them go to friends' houses for sleepovers, no matter how long we've known the other parents, etc. It's just not worth the risk people! Protecting your family is your #1 job as a parent, and there just aren't any shortcuts.

And then @teefcan help us make sense of those musings!

Well, winning the offseason did require his brother to sleep on a futon at the OBD coaches offices...unfortunately, maybe Rob should've been working instead of sleeping, and Mario would've actually understood where he was supposed to play in that Ryan Defense?

Vinegar (diluted with some water) is also a good natural cleaner that won't be quite as harsh on fibers as chemicals.

Bears...Beets...Battlestar Galactica. Therefore, The Office wins.

Not enough pages yet. If only we could figure out a way to morph this into a Pats lovefest thread, then we'd really have some staying power with this one!

While we're at it, maybe the posters responsible for said identical threads can officially change their board membership as part of the merger? That way at least it won't be as confusing for who belongs where.

Yes--the ultimate "resting on your laurels" HC who could never be ushered out the door unwillingly based on exactly that. Although, it's not like his 90's Miami teams were ever bad/awful (having Marino covered up a lot of sins), they just couldn't get over the hump outside the regular season, sort of like the modern era Chargers or Vikings?

And his talent at QB/WR was right up there with the all-timers--Marino racked up multiple passing records during his run, but the Bills were there to snuff out the Fish in the playoffs time after time. Unlike Hoodie, Shula simply could come up with no answers for the Bills O.