No_Matter_What

It was already reported that it is NOT post June 1

Waiting for Sportrac to catch up I'll make a wild guess how we stand. They show we have 15,5M right now (actually 16,9M top51 but since final roster is 53 players I have no clue what's the point of temporary top 51). That's after cutting Star already. They have OJ Howard wrong, since they count 3,5M and his actual cap hit for 2022 will be 2,9M if the reports are true. So we have 16,1M cap space. Saffold - 4,25M (reported) Miller - 6M (my wild guess, I expect up to 4M prorated signing bonus and max 2M salary) DQ Jones - 5M (maybe little less, it was reported as 14/2 but some void year would not surprise me) Phillips - 2,5M (no clue, but I guess he and Lawson came very cheap) Lawson - 2M (same as above, even less money) However, these cap hits replace 700k cap hit of other players currently accounted for so we need to add extra 3,5M. In this scenario we are right now having around 0 cap space. We need backup QB, and I expect maybe 2 more FA players (CB, OL?, RB?, LB?), plus we need up to 3M for rookies, so 2 more restructures incoming. Looking forward real numbers.

If it is pre June 1 release (standard), we save around 1,5M cap space this year and also eat all his dead cap, which is quite a lot - 7,7M. We could also use post June 1 release, which means 2,6M more savings this year (so 4,1M savings, 5,1M dead cap), but those 2,6M would be dead cap next season (2023). And savings this year would be effective after June 1, so we would not be able to use those money (cap space) right now in free agency. Apparently we chose the former option. Good to hear. Don't have to kick every can down the road.

End of an era!

Saffold is already in his own thread. 4.25M this year, 2M next void year. Overall good value I guess.

Great overall cap hit. Don't like 2M hit next year but I guess I need to learn to live with that

Anybody has idea when should sportrac has missing data? I mean they are now trying to get info from league or agents or what? I find it weird that some contracts are immediately known to details and in some (many) cases we need to wait days (weeks?).

To be fair Raiders were in WR market probably too anyway. This just makes it almost certainty that WR goes 22.

I guess somebody already noted that but this all but guarantees Packers taking WR at 22. There will be huge run on WRs just in front of us.

Glad to see you're alive. It was strange not to see you 2 days or so when the biggest things were happening

You guys learned nothing? If there is a news that we inquired about this guy you can be sure that Beane is working on something completely different.

Shaq Lawson and Jordan Phillips

Well you certainly know how to exaggerate.

Didn't read the whole thread so no idea if this was discussed, but I will take a wild guess on contract structure: $24M signing bonus spread over 6 years. There will be some other yearly bonuses instead of base salary I am just make it simple for the guess purposes. Y1 - 4M base salary (8M cap hit) Y2 - 11M base salary (15M cap hit) Y3 - 14M base salary (18M cap hit) Y4 - 17M base salary (21M cap hit, 12M dead cap) Y5 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 8M dead cap) Y6 - 25M base salary (29M cap hit, 4M dead cap) That's 120M total, 53M in first 3 years, 70M in first 4. I can imagine signing bonus being a little less, but I doubt its less than 20M.

I've been saying for two months that this us what I want/expect in first three rounds. And after what we've done in FA it seems more and more likely.

So Miller - Jones/Settle - Oliver - Rousseau? Fine with me I guess

Sry if this us stupid question, but does he fit our defense? I know nothing about it, but we play 4-3 and as far as I know he used to play 3-4 OLB. Anyway I trust Beane and McD on this one

Esponosa is a good one. Much more creative than Epinoza.

My words exactly! Didn't want him anyway!

Yeah I know. I meant (i) dead cap from void years and (ii) restructures of active players. In the end both means kicking the can down the road. Past years we've made very few of these moves, since we didn't have to. Now we will have to. I fully trust Beane to be smart, it is just an uncharted territory for this regime imo.

As far as I understand it any re-signing will not help with those void years. If we re-sign him whatever we pay him takes another cap space, in addition to existing dead cap (3,4M). I highly doubt that it is even possible to fit McKissic, Jones and Saffold within 8M cap this year, provided that 14/2 Jones number published by agent is remotely accurate. We will revisit this once the numbers are known, I'll find you Thanks for the job you are doing in this thread / FA thread btw.

Right now roughly 45M. https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/cap/2023/ But it will be less than 15M once all FA contracts, restructures and rookie contracts kick in. Maybe even close to zero. And that will be without Edmunds and hopefully Knox extensions.

Hmm why do you think that? McKissic is 7/2, so probably around 2.5M first year. If Jones rumors are correct, he is 14/2, so at least 5M first year. Saffold has a dummy year, but I doubt his cap hit this year is less than 4M. So that is at least 11M together.

I trust in Beane. But this is quite a new situation even for him. And the fact is that he already started mortgaging the future more than before (I know it is somewhat inevitable). What I am saying is that we don't know how far is he willing to go. If he is in fact creating space for Jones than we will mortgage the future quite a lot (and I am not saying I am against it).

Well I know §1M per se is not a big deal. But this is not §1M, this is §3,4M. And it adds up. Last year we had void years only for Addison and Sanders. Now it is Haack, Saffold, Settle, Hyde and we are probably not finished. And I also know that cap will increase. So will players' salaries. The question is how much each team restructures and "kicks the can" down the road. I know I need to get used to Bills doing it, I just don't want us to become Saints or Rams (cap wise, not SB wise ). But like I said I am not making big deal out of this. Just saying it doesn't make me happy. I need to see what the prize will be