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Oops I see. That really sucks And I don't see how to work around it. @Hapless Bills Fan any idea? If I don't figure something out I will probably just delete that second question since as it is it will skew the results. Hmm

I still don't think I am competent enough to participate but if there is no one else I can take Browns with their one pick

Your guys are on the updated list folks. Also, for everybody, it is in the OP and also in 2nd question, but to make sure: Poll allows only 20 options (and we started with 20 players), so in order to add players I had to add new question. But poll obviously remains only one, so please select only one player from COMPLETE list. I am saying this because technically it is now possible to select one player from each question (and I can't do anything with that).

@NewEra just put Penning on board with 20th vote. I'll update OP in a minute.

Agreed. OL was major issue last year. I don't care that they put some solid games together at the end of the season. If Penning is as good as people claim (which seems to be quite universal opinion), we just take him and figure rest later.

What's wrong with Burks? I think there are better options right now but I for one am surprised that he gets so few votes. But I do think that at the end of the day he will be voted to the board (if we get that far) sooner than some guys who have more votes now. Anyway, really interesting how the votes are spread. Yesterday we added two players to the board, hopefully we can make the same today. But there are lots of votes spread around. Thanks everyone, keep them votes coming!

Not arguing with you other points but Morse's dead cap after 2022 season is 5M which I consider sizeable. It's not the end of the world but it's quite a lot.

Interesting. I didn't include him so far since he is lower on "consensus" boards and I don't remember him being discussed on TSW in relation to our first round pick at all. Once next player is is chosen I will try to expand list and may include him.

Ok so now we are in the territory where it gets really interesting for me. All obvious WR/CB choices are gone, and we either take players mostly perceived as better on positions with less obvious need, or might reach a little for CB/WR. Really curious how this will end up. For me its now Penning all day long. Once you have QB OL becomes single most important unit and Penning seems like a great prospect. Not taking him b/c we have Brown already seems like a weak argument to me.

Congratz on not making it to the fifth line of OP!

You're right. I realized it as soon as you quoted me, but there was no way back since somebody already casted that 20th vote. I don't think it would've made a difference in this case since McDuffie was really missing just one more vote but I won't do it again.

I agree but the voters have spoken!

Good morning everybody! Seems like we could add at least two more players to the board today. One more vote missing for McDuffie.

Already selected as our top pick if available (see OP). We are now voting who is next if he and Booth are both gone (in addition to all top players who are extremely unlikely to fall to us).

Yep, my bad, fixed.

Williams and Booth are already on the big board, thus you cannot select them - we have already agreed that we pick them first if there is a chance. Walker isn't on the list yet since it is too soon for him to be included based on "consensus" and discussions on this site.

That's wrong. Its $2M, max $2,5M. Rookies replace other guys already on the roster. Only top 2 picks make any relevant impact on cap space. But we need additional almost $2M for 52nd and 53rd member of the roster. And PS players also count, which is I guess around $3M or so. That is $7M total. Add some $3M we need for inseason changes and we have no cap at all. We can obviously create more by restructuring.

Are you saying that it doesn't allow you to vote again after I deleted Booth?

I know that many of these guys won't be there - It is inevitable, since we are picking at 25 and I only excluded top 10 guys + maybe 2-3 QBs taken before us. But I wanted to see how our board could look like outside of those top players. Yeah I thought about Hamilton. But I didn't want to go through players who are ~100% out of our reach, and I considered Hamilton as one of those players. Yes we might trade up but then also other players (Gardner, Stingley?) might become available and I wanted to avoid them since I don't find it realistic. I didn't see Hamilton outside of top 15 in any mock and that was sort of the line I draw. As for some players possibly being much lower at our board (included in my list), that was sort of my point - to see how fans see Lloyd, Davis or Linderbaum compared to players who might be percieved as worse overall, but play on position of need. Yes. I tried to explain it in my original post but apparently I failed That's the whole point. Guy gets 20 votes, he goes on the board, anybody who voted for him can vote again. Point is to put players who could be possible available for our pick 25 in order.

Right now I don't think we can conclude that they don't get enough respect. We only know that people want Garrett Wilson, Jameson Williams and probably Andrew Booth more. It is still very likely that at least Lloyd will be in top 10-12 on this board, which means we (if fans were Beane) take him at 25. We'll see. That was one of the reasons I started this, to see how people here value these prospects relatively to "lesser" prospects on more valuable positions or positions of bigger need.

Willams and Wilson on the board, Dotson and Watson added to the poll for the next spot. I'll edit/comment more when I come home from the trip with kids.

Ok I will put it in title and will keep it updated. Not sure if I understand you but that is the plan. Choose top guy, put him on the board, and vote for the next guy.

The idea is to get "complete board" for the first round. As soon as some players are placed on board I will replace them with next. For now I chose 20 players who are in my opinion consensus top 20 available plus added some players/positions which were being discussed here. Watson and Dotson will be added as soon as some WRs are picked. Same for McCreary, he is next in line when CBs goes of the board. As for the bolded, thats one of the resons I started this. I would like to know where is the turning point when we as fans would start drafting gyus like Dean or Davis instead of next tier WRs or CBs who are considered as much bigger needs.

Thanks for all votes so far. I will shamelessly bump this from time to time to see if I can get it going.

This is very interesting. Yesterday is was slightly over $10M so I guess it went $150k or so down due to Bobby Hart signing, who I guess got that $1,047,500 min deal and it replaced one of $895,000 contracts. But there are two things I'd like to know. Sportrac has us at 66 players and $8,2M cap space. NFLPA says we have 68 players signed. Who are two players signed by Bills Sportrac doesn't know about? And more importantly, where are those extra $1,7M which we have more than Sportrac thinks coming from? Do they have some players wrong, or did we made some extra restructure not known so far?