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Not much difference between PUP and IR for him, but quite a big for the Bills, if I understand it correctly. If we IR him, he needs to get on original 53. If we PUP him, he doesn't have to, so we can keep one more player (without need to cut him, eat possible dead money and then sign him again). Right?

Well since there are no leaks from our FO this tweet actually makes me believe he might be traded

Look how the word "loser" is used in the post he was responding to. He was joking.

I am pretty sure that Edmunds was eligible as a rookie.

This is extremely well put even for you Gunner 👍 Agree with everything. Extend those 3, let go Edmunds and Poyer even though I don't mind Edmunds and I love what Poyer brings. Can't pay everyone so we need to choose wisely. And I do believe that Beane thinks in these lines too. Only problem I see that I still don't see how it is possible not to extend Poyer now. Will he really play if they don't agree on something? I hope so but I am skeptic. But it is best for the team imo. Minor thing re Singletary - if he has a good year I'd try to extend him on terms very favorable to Bills. Something really cheap. Maybe he takes it. EDIT: I also think that without this Poyer issue one of Oliver/Knox would be extended through this season. Something like Taron last year. But if Poyer is not extended then it might create some bad blood to extend someone important before him, so Beane might be forced to wait until the season ends. Which will cost us money probably.

Exactly this. We barely had cap space to sign PS guys.

Not a bad roster with couple question marks (as with any fan roster). Did you omit Matakevich by accident or do you think he will be cut? I really doubt that. Hell would freeze before Hodgins fetches 4th round. If Beane pulls some magic trick then maybe 6th.

I did this very same exercise with sportrac, using same players as you. Once I cut it to 53 players it shows $4,5M cap space. I have no idea how does that account for Boettger so not sure if I need to substract his $1M. So little different numbers. Biggest differences are Duke Johnson (only $650K savings) and Andre Smith over $1M in savings. No idea how it will work with Smith. My assumption was that we have two options - cut him altogether, or put him on initial 53 then he gets suspended and we gain roster spot (?). But I don't think we can afford doing that (and that we will be willing to do that for him) so I guess he is cut. Correct me pls if I am wrong. Sportrac shows different cap hits than you on most players btw. Anyway, it still shows more cap space than you calculated.

Are you sure about Allen? He was benched last week.

OP I know it is stressful to post before Yolo but now when you are relaxed can you pls fix Gesicki's name in title?

You quoted old numbers. This year its $207K for cheapest players, so at least $3,3M for full PS. And it will be more since older players get more AFAIK.

https://www.nbcsports.com/philadelphia/eagles/heres-how-much-money-nfl-practice-squad-players-make https://chiefswire.usatoday.com/2019/09/01/everything-you-need-to-know-about-nfl-practice-squad-rules-2019/ https://russellstreetreport.com/salarycap/nfl-salary-cap-faqs/ https://www.patspulpit.com/2021/9/1/22651069/2021-nfl-roster-cuts-explainer-practice-squad-new-england-patriots

Google dozen other articles. That one was wrong when released.

They do. I can't find official rules quickly but just google it every NFL article says and it was like that last year. It will be around $4M this year total.

If you imply that cutting some players from current top 51 will save us money I think you are wrong. Unless we cut Matakevich or trade Howard we are not saving anything. Poyer situation is really interesting. You say "wait". I fully agree that the best solution for team is not to extend him this year, and probably not to extend him at all. I don't think we can afford him. However, it is hard to believe that he will just play this season without any realistic extension talks. I would really love to know what is Beane doing re Poyer.

Not sure if I understand it correctly but if I do I just realized that Boettger on PUP (and any player for that matter) really hurts us from cap perspective, since it is essentially 54th player which needs to be accounted for. Putting Ike on PUP means that Beane needs to create $1M more in cap space to fit him in. It will be less at the end of the day, when he after couple of games replaces his (presumably cheap and non-guaranteed) replacement, but still.

Right now we don't have enough cap space once 53man roster kicks in + PS starts to count. Plus we need some space for in season moves - when someone goes to IR for 3 weeks you need to replace him and it costs money. So neither of your options. And fwiw, any extension will likely LOWER cap hit for said player, so no need to create cap space for those. What Beane said today lowers the chance that Poyer is extended before season starts.

OP, why is your thread title saying something completely different than Wawrow's tweet?

AFAIK he and Boettger ARE on the PUP already. And it is not relevant now. They are included in 81man roster and it needs to be 80.

So after Haack, Austin and Ford we were at 81. Did we cut the last guy already? Beane asleep at the wheel?

As for Boettger, anybody knows how does it work? Do we need to put him on original 53 then IR him? Also, same with White if he is not ready? If yes, it will not be easy to cut 2 more players and get them back. I know it can be done and Beane did it in the past but it costs dead money AFAIK. So if this is the case I don't think Boettger makes original 53.

No worries we have still Taiwan Jones for preseason and Tremaine Edmunds for season.

Just a minor issue but I am not sure I like this kind of reporting. I guess that for somebody who doesn't know much about cap space this indicates that we now have $1.135M more free cap space, which is not correct. You have to replace Haack's salary with somebody else, which in this case will be PG and his $760K or so. So we actually save much less. Not a big deal I know.

Also, I do agree that Hodgins is most likely 7th on the depth chart, but I do think we keep 7 WRs and he makes it. I think if it gets really close between him and some other player the fact that he was drafted here and this is his 3rd camp fighting for rostes spot will help him a lot. It sends some message to the team.

Gunner I am pretty sure they kept 11 last year - Rousseau, Star, Oliver, Hughes, Addison, Epenesa, Obada, Basham, Phillips, Zimmer and Butler. This year it will be less for sure since we have Von and overall we are more top heavy. I guess 9 is most likely and I do agree Shaq made sure yesterday that he has an upper hand on the spot.