No_Matter_What

Jets Dline is just too much this game.

Edmunds is amazing today.

Ok, there wasn't a replay so I thought it was not clear if that one to McK was bad...

Which one do you mean as first? That INT or forst down to McK this series?

Moss

You already know he is, but it's HINES

4D chess. He doesn't want to be regular season MVP since those don't win SBs.

Agreed. It seemed that they had Dodson ahead of Bernard. Not sure if it was clear that he comes first instead of Milano specifically though. Anyway, I am not disappointed. I want to see him play. You never know who is going to be available in playoffs so let other guys gain some experience.

I am in bed with covid and had nothing to do, so I re-watched Bills @ Jets 2019 game. For those who don't remember, it was season opener a we were down 0-16 in mid 3Q but managed to come back and win 17-16. Defense was playing great whole game, but Allen had 4 turnovers in the first half including unlucky pick6 by CJ Mosley (bounced from Cole Beasley's hands). He was great in the first drive until fumble, then quite ok, and then looked really bad trying to play hero ball early in second half. Then suddenly we got Devin Singletary going, Allen settled down and managed very nice GW drive with 3:00 to go. Defense then shut Darnold down and we won. Game was for sure affected by Mosley's injury; our run started once he went down in the middle of the 3rd quarter. Couple of things I find interesting: 1. Allen's inaccuracy was the main theme for the announcers, esp. Harlan. Can't blame them much though after his rookie season. Fun times lol. 2. Universal thought was that Darnold is/will be the better QB of the two. Fun times indeed. 3. In offense, this was the first game Allen had any receivers at all. John Brown had 123 yards and a TD and was great imo, as he was whole 2019 season. I think he helped Allen a lot. 4. Rookies were Oliver, Ford, Singletary, Knox, D. Johnson, J. Johnson and Sweeney. Almost all of them played. Oliver looked good and Sweeney looked like we may had something in him. Singletary was great once he got a chance behind Gore. He had 4 rushes for 70 yards and 5 catches for 28 yards. He essentially changed the game since our first TD was all him. It was nice to see, since before he had a chance to show something Shady McCoy had like 6/60 for the Chiefs and people were questioning how we could let him go and keep Gore 5. Speaking of Gore, wow. We didn't like Moss running for 2 yards last 2 years but man Gore was something else. I don't want to bash someone with his career but he really looked slow and old in Bills uni. 6. Jets offense was Bell and Crowder. It was Bell's first game after a year and he looked good. Then he went on a disappointing season (789y, 3,2y AVG) and his career essentially ended. Other than them, Jets had nothing. Robbie Anderson had 3/23. 7. It's really interesting how similar our back 7 looked to what we have now. Edmunds, Milano, T.Johnson, Hyde, Poyer, White, Neal. Only Lorax and Levi Wallace are gone now. 8. There was a brutal turnover on Jets roster. It is only 3 years away, and unless I missed someone only CJ Mosley, Q.Williams, Braxton Berrios and LS Hennessy are on their current roster now. That's almost impossible to manage imo. EDIT: They also had LB Shepherd and DE Franklin-Myers as inactives so that's 6. For comparison, Bills have 21 from that day (including Phillips, Lawson and Marlowe who came back). For fun I also read the game day thread Lots of hot takes even from reasonable posters, but you can imagine it was even worse than these days, since nobody knew what Allen will become and people were used to losing much more than today. If somebody has nothing to do: https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/217960-bills-at-the-jets-98-first-half-thread/ https://www.twobillsdrive.com/community/topic/217961-98-bills-at-jets-second-half-thread/ It is worth mentioning that success of other relevant QBs on that day didn't help either. Ravens destroyed Dolphins 59-10 and Lamar was 17/20 for 324y and 5TDs. Mahomes was 25/33 for 378y and 3TDs, all of them to Sammy Watkins who had 9/198 lol.

I think they are really good on paper right now, and they won 12 out of last 13 games which Tua started and finished. They are no doubt a contender right now, but there are still couple of question marks, mostly about Tua, their playoff inexperience and coaching. And I do think we are still slightly better team even if we remove Josh and Tua from the equation. So to sum it up, I can fully imagine them ending up something like 12-5 or even 13-4, but it won't be enough to win the East and unless we are really unlucky that surely won't be enough when they meet JFA in Orchard park in December and especially in January.

Well they paid couple of relatively cheap WRs, I am not sure what your point is. I am not arguing that you can't pay all players for a short term, or that you can't pay many cheap players longterm, I am just saying that you can't pay everybody longterm and that salary cap is a real limitation. So, to ask you once again: If cap is not "real", what other reason do you think Chiefs had when they traded Hill away? As for the Bills, I am pretty sure they would be more than happy to resign/extend Poyer, Oliver, Edmunds, Singletary, Phillips, Jackson, Davis, etc, and still add some top FA. But they won't, and the only reason is that cap is more than real.

Well I am not, was it a snark? Don't be so defensive. Point is that you were basically saying that 2+2=5 in terms what happens in NFL on weekly basis. You were saying that Beane would be silly to do something what he obviously planned to do. Now you are right that I didn't have to come back and call you out, but I did it not to show how good I am, but to make sure you notice what happened (I don't see you around very often). You have a right to believe otherwise

I am confused by this take (not only by you, but many others). Hines' cap hits next two years are $4.8m and $5.5m, and unless I am missing something he can be cut for free. At the same time, I'd be really surprised if Singletary gets better deal from any team. I am pretty sure we can keep Devin for $10.3m cap hit in the first two years pf his future contract. So why exactly are you so sure that we will keep a RB who has not take a single snap as Bills RB over Singletary who we drafted and our QB clearly loves him?

Well apparently Chiefs also do, otherwise Hill would be still on the team. Also, if the cap is not "real", why exactly wasn't Poyer extended already? I do know that cap can be manipulated to a certain extent but it is still more than real in terms of limiting teams to do whatever they want.

And just like that, Bryant is cut again. Exactly as @Beck Water and I predicted.

Just a couple of technical notes: - it was actually not 38 players but only 36 - Saffold and Phillips have just dead cap - 1st round pick salary is NOT factored in (it is just mentioned but not counted) - $7 million over the cap was a little deceiving, since Sportrac counts with $218M salary cap, and actual number will be higher for sure. If you browse a little expectations are that it will be around/at least $225M. On the other hand, you need additional $4M fo PS players and roughly $3M for in season changes, so if salary cap was indeed $225 then we would be actually $7M over the cap anyway (this was meanwhile changed by Hines trade but he could be cut for nothing). Do you have any link to support this? I saw that it is being estimated to be about $225 but nothing like you suggest (for 2023). This year it was $208M, I seriously doubt it will be $250M next year, Amazon or not.

Actually a best one today. I was planning to start the same once this deadline is over. Teams are making half desperate moves in order to catch us, since we made a move last off-season.

Well first of all it doesn't matter what I think about them or the Bills And they don't have tiebreaker. They will have one if they beat us in second game. Anyway, the only thing that I am saying is that even after these two additions they are still inferior to the Bills. Can they beat us? Sure they can, so could Jags or Pats in one random game. But we will be quite a big favorites to win a PO game in OP come January, that's my point.

Yeah they did. So did Patriots last year under some bizzare circumstances and it also didn't help them much in January.

Lol this is some wild trade deadline. They got better again but won't help them much vs Bills.

We did major move well ahead of everybody, by adding Von Miller. There is a reason why we are the biggest SB favorites, and that won't change after McCaffrey, Toney, Quinn, Smith and Hockenson moves.

Can you please explain what do you mean by "it's not acceptable"? Serious question. Like you are going to fire him if he does it again? Or you want Bills to get rid of him? Or you stop rooting for the Bills? Or exactly what are you not going to "accept"?

I think they will have problems to attract FAs despite huge cap space this off-season. So they might be trying to balance things out by acquiring some talent with couple of remaining years on their contracts this way. Not saying it's smart though.

It's easy. Chiefs added talented WR with all red flags you can imagine, so obviously we need to make some kind of move, otherwise it is an EPIC fail. I mean, is it hard for you to understand such a flawless logic?

And there it is - updated after Packes win. Next - Browns in W11. The last team to beat in AFC.