No_Matter_What

Absolutely. This potentially helps us a LOT, because this guy pushes our targets down.

Lol there is exactly 0% chance of that happening.

I think he feels blessed.

You mean like one getting from 22 to 7 to grab Josh Allen?

Good morning everybody. 2.20 am here. Go Bills, pick some difference maker

On my cell phone so sry for short reply. I just had the feeling that you are saying that they are drafting defense again because that is what they do. I disagree with that. I think they realize that they need to change that approach a little bit. I am not saying that they won't draft defense in round 1, and I even want them to do so if that guy is clearly BPA. I am just saying that they will try to draft offense. I'd say Jordan Addison, some other WRs they like, or any OL they like are priorities. And only if they are not available, they go BPA on defense. I also fully expect them to draft 2 offensive players with their first 3 picks. I guess we will see soon

This is imo a very lazy take. You are seriously underestimating McB if you expect them to take Smith over Addison just because they prioritized defense in the past. They see what we see.

I definitely do

If you're right, will he be on the board at #60?

I sort of agree with what you say about bad timing. But what is your solution in this draft (or overall)? Drafting "BPA" all the time almost no matter what? Like you'll be fine if we go DE/CB this year? Or you think it is too late already and Beane is already forced to draft some positions?

I hate you both! I am not able to evaluate college players myself, and I so want to get excited about this draft, and you (and many others, like @GunnerBill) are doing everything you can to ruin it!

If you had gun to my head you'd draft anybody

My conclusion from both TSW mock drafts is that we need to have some luck in the first round that one of few guys we might be interested in falls and then we have to trade up in the second (using fourth) for the OL/LB/WR we want.

This is sort of OT here but a little thought I don't know where else to post - if Hamlin really is cleared for the season and Lawson indeed signs then in my count we have already 50 NFL quality level players on the roster - counting Boettger, Lawson, Dodson, Spector and Neal as bottom roster guys, and not counting guys like Cam Lewis, Brandin Bryant, Eli Ankou, Kingsley Jonathan, Zayne Andreson and Jared Mayden who were mostly on PS or probably belong there. And if my math is correct, 3 players we are missing before draft (based on what we usually keep) are WR, TE and RB. Since 4th RB used to be Taiwan Jones, who was in fact just a ST player, it is possible that we use some other player in his ST role (player playing other position) and won't keep 4 RBs at all. To sum it up, I'd be shocked if we didn't draft WR (not that it is anything new ) and I guess that TE is also all but sure. Also, I find it absolutely incredible that as it stands now Rapp is the only player on defense who wasn't on the roster last year.

Oops sorry had tough court hearing couple hours ago, still not in a good mental form Totally missed that this is without trades lol

So, given the discussions on these forums, are we somehow able to strike a deal with Jags @MrEpsYtown (if they want to) and jump the Giants? @Virgil

Switching spots with Jags would probably cost us 4th just like last year (or maybe even more). Not sure I'd do that. Also, I am not sure if Beane would specifically jumped Giants, given the relationship between teams (Schoen and Daboll). Or do you guys thinks it doesn't matter at all?

Yep, I am just googling it, I've read somewhere that NFL "withholds" Johston's draft invititation and somehow I misunderstood that word, I thought that it meant that invitation was taken back but apparently it means something else

I can't find the White to Chiefs rumor but this is the list of attendees... Q. Johnston was originally invited but not anymore

First of all, awesome job. It requires lots of knowledge about both players and teams to put together reasonable mock draft, and yours is as good as it gets - both picks and reasoning. Couple of notes/questions: 1. You are on a record saying that guards (and to the lesser extent RTs) shouldn't be taken in the 1st round, not to mention top 10, unless they are expected to become regular all-pros. Do you think Skoronski is that good? 2. I've read somewhere that Keion White (unlike Anudike-Uzomah) was invited to the draft, and there are rumors that he is in fact Chiefs target. Don't you think this is the possibility? Or is he a worse fit for Chiefs in your eyes? 3. If it ended up this way, would you feel that the Chiefs outdrafted us (again)? Hyatt vs FA-U. 4. I disagree with you on this one. I know there is an (quite a strong) argument that the Bills picks usually correlate with who they are meeting with, but I do thing that McD and Beane realize (more than in the past) that they need to invest more in the OL and will be more than happy to draft OL high if value matches draft position. Unlike you, I fully expect them to try to draft OL in the first two rounds if they have a chance. But even of you don't think they do it, you say that you want them to. What does it specifically mean in this scenario? Does it mean that you would prefer drafting Harrison instead of Hyatt?

Don't know where to post this and didn't see it elsewhere. Could be potentially interesting for the Bills:

You mean like Trent McDuffie?

Gunner, does this mean that you think Zavala if drafted could become day 1 starter? Also, to expand on this a little bit, could you please list all OL prospects who you would expect to be day 1 starters for the Bills (other than obvious top 3 OTs)?

To speed things up, I take a liberty to already tag @Might Rather who picks after @Chaos. Going to bed in 4-5 hours (Europe), so I'd love to see TSW poll set up before that

Exactly. All the time people wanted Beane to invest in the offense but it doesn't come without consequences. For me, if it means that we get much weaker at MLB so be it.