No_Matter_What

Sry if this was already discussed, but does this all but guarantee at least 4th round comp pick to us? Assuming that we will not sign any other FA with bigger deal then we just give to Connor McGovern? I have no idea how the formula works, but this looks like a huge deal which could fetch a 3rd.

If Sportrac has it right than this is really a bad take by Joe. It's a 2 year deal. Yes we can cut him after 2023, but he has cap hit of $2.050.000 and dead cap of $800.000. So if he cut hit him and sign any other punter (which we have to) for a penny over vet min, we are still paying punters $2M. Anyway, happy to keep him for reasonable price.

Happy?

He was good, we will miss him, but I would never pay him that much. Really curious how our defense will look like next year. I will be very weird and different without Edmunds.

The way I read this we are paying him at least $4M to play in 2023 with incentives to earn more. That's way way too much unless we substantially change the way he is used. Waiting for final details but not happy ATM.

Well it's safe to say that Beane started to do what we all wanted him to do. The question now is if he chose the right guy Edit: Now I see this is Cowboys Connor McGovern not Jets. Is it a good thing or bad?

Or maybe our 1st for Jeudy and one of their 3rd (picks 68/69)...

Agreed. Let's wait and see final numbers but this is confusing to me. Hines was basically a FA with no dead money on his contract. Beane had all the leverage. Either keep him for max. $2M (or maybe $2.5) or let him go. Restructuring his deal to create void years doesn't make any sense to me. I really hope this is for vet min only.

Can somebody remind me how this acutally works? The way I understand it today at noon ET (i.e. in 3 hours) teams can START contacting agents, so normally it would take at least couple of hours to get any deal done, so there should be news in the evening at best. However, IIRC there are some news almost immediately, right? If that is the case, is this something what NFL tolerates and there are unofficial talks all the time, so they just need to wait until today noon to announce agreements?

I am pretty sure we will sign at least one (probably exactly one) OL starter in this FA window. If yes, who do you want it to be and how much do you expect we will have to pay him? I am no expert, but after reading these forums last couple of weeks, I want G Isaac Seumalo. My understanding is that he is the best FA guard available so let's go get him. I hope we can do something like 37/3 (which will be essentialy something like 22/2). Who do you have? One name (and contract estimation) please.

Joking aside, can anybody tell me what word he misspelled when he wrote "Ion"?

That "question" is not a question. We have to make more restructures. We won't field 53 players with just Allen and Miller even if we remain very passive in FA.

My hot take is that this is great trade for the Bears.

I like him more than most people here but I'd trade him for 2nd.

Anybody whose name I've heard and comes for vet min.

I'd be shocked if this meant anything for Geno. Carr is established middle of the road vet. Geno had one good season. I think best he can hope for is something like 60/2 with 35M guaranteed. My guess is that he doesn't even get that.

Thanks for detailed response. It will be interesting to see how much he actually gets. Problem I see is very similar to last year. We all want Beane to do something, but the options in FA are very limited, unless you want to overpay a lot. I think it was the same last year, when there were almost no realistic options how to uprage OL in FA (and very few in draft). As for overpaying, Beane did it with Morse, I thought it was a great idea but many claimed he gets too much. But that is the only way how to get top FA imo. But again, I would always make my OL a priority, so hopefully somthing happens.

How much are you willing to pay him? Also, who are next two in line?

Mariota is fine with me. As is any other reclamation project or former starter, provided that he gets max. $2M. No more spending on BU QBs. Just roll the dice with Josh.

I am fine with this. I am much higher on Frazier than most here, and I don't blame him much for our PO failures (though he definitely deserves some blame, as exhibited by that 3rd down in our EZ vs Bengals which had its own thread here), but for me it has reached the point where we have to make some changes, even though it is pretty likely it may be for the worse. We'll see what future brings.

Haha I saw new post in this thread saw your avatar and knew before opening it that details are on and you posted it So you were right about bonus. So no complaints from my side. I really hope Beane keeps it this way.

Lol knowing your posting history I wonder how could you possibly forgot Saffold

I agree. But we need to see numbers. I have no doubt he signed for something close to vet min, I just hope we didn't give him any guaranteed money, so he doesn't leave us with any dead cap once cut. Edit: I didn't notice that you mentioned it. $25k is fine with me, $125k is not. I really hope it's the former.

Well then you were probably STUNNED like 40 picks in a row until his name was finally called...