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He is really good. We just need to use him.

I don't think we can suck vs Jets for the 4th time in a row and get swept by Zach Wilson. Or can we?

Lol if Cleveland wins these games couldn't have ended any worse

@HoofHearted @Buffalo716 Thanks for your responses, very helpful. I'll get back to you on some things next week when I'll have a little bit more time.

Ok I'll bite. This is something I wanted to ask for ages, but never really found time and courage I am from Europe, I started to watch football maybe 8 years ago, so I don't have any firsthand experience. My question is - can you explain to me in reasonable detail how NFL offensive play calling works? To be more specific - what happens from the end of one snap to the end of another? Let's say we just gained 3 yards running. My understanding is that OC looks at his spreadsheet and chooses a call suitable (or not, if you are Dorsey ) for 2&7. What happens then? I guess that OC says some code name for the call to the QB and QB tells it to players in the huddle. How does that code look like? Does it have specific words for OL (so they know blocking scheme) and each WR/TE/RB (so they know which route to run / who to block)? Or is it a single name from which everybody knows what to do? Can you provide an example? Then personnel. Who decides who is going to be on the field for the snap? If OC calls something what requires 3WRs and 1TE and we had 2TEs on field previous snap, who decides which TE goes off and which extra WR goes on field? OC? Or some coach on the sideline? This is extremely confusing for me how this can be decided and executed within seconds. And even if we stay in the same personnel, who decides who replaces for example Diggs if goes off, since he just run a long route? Also, once we have correct players on the field, how do they know which exact WR lines up where and which route he runs? I guess they all have to be somewhat interchangeable, how do they know who runs what? I guess that it is impossible for this to be included in the call code, so how do they know? I can understand that if we start with Diggs/Davis/Shakir/Kincaid then it could be simple who is where, but what if Harty comes in? I guess he doesn't just always run the same route which would run player he replaces. And as the cherry on top, how on Earth does no huddle work? How everybody knows what to do? That is pre snap. One the ball is snapped, how does it work then? Let's say it is a pass play, how does going through reads work? Is it always decided pre snap who the first read is going to be? Is it "built in" the call already, so it is basically decided by OC? Or is it up to QB and he can decide on the fly? I didn't mention pre snap changes made by QB, since that is another layer and for the time being I'd be satisfied with understanding how the basics work After 8 years watching I have no idea, so I'll appreciate if you (or anybody else obviously) can explain this to me. I guess some things differ from team to team, but there are probably some basic rules which are generally accepted. Thanks in advance!

Absolutely this. I just wasn't the time to celebrate. Broncos had the ball and needed FG only.

Gun to the head now I voted no, but my real answer is wait and see until the season end. Bit for the moment it is unlikely that I'll want him back.

Funny how the perspective can change within minutes in NFL. I don't think Ravens are running away with anything right now. If Bengals win against then on TNF Ravens will be LAST in the AFC North lol. Edit: Oops they are 7-3 not 6-3 right now, so they won't be last if they lose. But still, that division is dogfight and they are far from being even a PO lock

Late to the party, has the question how did we lose to this team already been asked?

I'll reserve my judgement on this topic untill this season ends.

Agreed, but I think Von makes the same tackle in a couple of weeks.

I know it will be all doom and gloom and fire everybody mood here right now but I don’t share it. To me the team was prepared today, we fought a tough battle vs very good team on the road. We were not dominated. We had another key injury in Bernard early + Hyde late, Josh made one big mistake (INT), they had one great defensive play (Kincaid fumble). I actually liked our offense. Shakir and Kincaid showed progress again. We need to incorporate new players into defense and finally stop having bad luck with key injuries. And once the playoff comes, Von Miller makes that key stop on 3rd down with 2 mins to go. I think we just hit rock bottom record wise. Now every game is just a fight for a playoffs spot, and if we get there, which I have no doubt about, we will be battle tested and in form. I believe in this team.

Looked like a really good defensive TO to me...

I really wonder why some of you are watching this game since apparently you already know the result...

Philllps, Dodson, Jackson starting?

Didn't see it mentioned - Sportrac thinks that his 2023 cap hit is only §522k https://www.spotrac.com/nfl/buffalo-bills/linval-joseph-6555/ I guess he has a lot of incentives and those will count only if fulfills them (?).

Ok then I misunderstood you. If this is what you meant then I fully agree. I think this is his problem in general, since from time to time he also overpays other positions - Harty or Hines come to my mind recently and that is not a hindsight on my part. But at DT he is doing that constantly and it does a little sense. And it is hurting us a lot, that's quite a lot of cap space which could've been used more effectively or saved. I sure hope he learns next time. Like you said he's shown the ability.

I agree with you on his DT misses, but how exactly do you want him to "own his errors" other than he is doing right now when he is looking for someone else?

What kind of compensation do you expect? What would you give up for him?

This shouldn't be funny for the millionth time but still is lol

I know it sounds weird but I prefer the Dolphins win. Unless the Chiefs win directly and clearly benefits the Bills, I always want them to lose.

Even if Bills are not Bills are not no. 1, it would be still great if Chiefs were neither. Let that be someone else for a change. I might even want the Dolphins to win next week lol.

I'd say the opposite. There will be a trade, book it. Maybe not a major one, but he will do something.

Your wish is his command

I appreciate your effort in this thread and you are obviously right if we are talking playoffs/wild card. But if you think that we are actually much better than we look like now, and that we are about to start winning tough road games (which I do), then we are talking about seeding and everything went wrong in this respect - Dolphins won, Jets won (divisional rival with possible Rodgers comeback), Jags won, Bengals leading, Ravens about to take the lead, and Chiefs... We all know how their game ends.