No_Matter_What

I can't speak for MJS but I disagree with you. I agree with him and trust me I have no anxiety. I am not American and I've been fan for only 6 years, so I wasn't here through drought. So believe me I am above it, and I can't ignore what is happening here. I didn't like the game, but for me it was less bad than what is happening here. Game lasts couple of hours and I can get over the loss pretty quickly, esp. if I think it was a fluke (which I think it was). But I also love reading these forums each day and it is much less fun after games like these. It obviously has to be less fun by definition (we just lost), but thats not the point - people can be sad and angry but still rational at the same time. And many just aren't. I understand that it is what it is but that is the reason why I was also "attacking" overreactions this week, not my inability to get over anything team related. Hope it makes sense.

Maybe because Vegas is not overreacting? Or maybe they see that other teams have glaring holes too? Or maybe our holes are not as glaring as one game indicates? Or maybe they see that we lost those 3 games by 13 points combined? Or maybe because they know that it is not important to peak in early November? Right now we are still second biggest SB contender in AFC after Titans, and that's only because they have like 50% chance to have first round bye and that makes huge difference.

Not only him, but half of this board. It just shows that people outside are much more rational than fans here. I don't agree with most of what you say, but I have to give you credit for counting Chiefs win as beating the team with winning record. Many people will argue that record they had when we beat them matters.

Talk is cheap. Show me how you actually bet the farm.

What a lovely list. Those 13RBs have precisely 0 Superbowl appearances combined. Two of them were in championship games, one of them twice (Jones, with HOF QB). I am not saying that we couldn't use stud RB, but drafting one early is just bad business. OL is way to go.

We are talking about different things. I am not commenting on performance of either. I am just saying that there was a logic in Allens decision to throw it and not to run for the first down only.

I wouldn't call it "walked", but he probably could've run for the 1st down. Thing is that if Davis makes that catch he makes another 10+ yards (unlike Allen). Oh and if we are blaming Allen or Davis, let's have a look who the hell was Williams blocking very next snap. THAT was brutal.

Lol this gets better by each post I read today. We are literally no. 1 ranked defense in whole NFL and they just allowed 9 points in an NFL game.

Why don't we wait until the end of the season to see if it was ill advised? Also, we smashed Chiefs this season. With a team which you called 2-3 win team in other thread lol.

I am pretty sure they did what they could. It wasn't pretty on offense and it wasn't enough, but they don't owe fans nothing.

Also this. Very well written. GTD was embarrassing, rants now are embarrassing. Its football. Tampa was 7-5 last year and won superbowl. We are 20-7 over the last 2 seasons and people are acting like we are in Texans situation. Some fans got too entitled somehow.

Well said. It doesn't make sense. Bills owe fans nothing, they played the best they could. If reasonable posters feel this way then oh well

Coming back after 2 hours of gaming. Can somebody update me? Has reasonable discussion already started or people are still firing everybody left and right?

Anybody else just praying that Devin holds the ball when he's gaining extra yards?

Clear catch, no?

Half of "fans" posting in this thread are much more embarrassing than team performance today. This team is like 20-5 in last 2 seasons and all you can do is trash them after couple of bad plays/drives/games.

How dare you bring sense to this discussion?

Cmon don't start this discussion again

Do we still have that 20+ 1st downs in each game running?

3 snap according to PFR.

Agreed. Please no first round RBs.

Poll is actually working despite the lock...

And second half of last year's regular season as well...

I say let's stay humble even after that.

Its an NFL game. Starting QB plays until there is no chance to lose the game. Which as history teaches us may be until end of the game even against inferior opponent like Jags.