JoshAllenHasBigHands

And what of the 50% of protestors that didnt wear masks?

Where did they go to the bathroom then?

Seems to me that if this werent true, you would have seen a massive resurgence after the BLM rallies. But we didn’t.

I imagine alot of that has to do with the ability to work remotely. Cumo’s EO technically states that if you are able to work remotely, you must do so. That is being sporadically complied with in the white color world, at least from what Ive seen in Rochester. As to the layoffs, every situation is different, but many of those are not necessarily a product of the dangers posed by the pandemic but rather the employment capacity of businesses. But as it pertains to the ability to go to work (for those offices that are open) go shopping, or go out to eat/go to the bar, things are ostensibly the same. With the glaring exception that you have to wear masks.

But thats my point. People are congregating, and they are doing in much more dangerous settings than the Hammer lot. Yet, here we are, pandemic contained. Very true, and a very fair correction!

My office is open. In downtown Rochester, things are mostly back to normal, except everyone is wearing a mask. I still cant help but be taken aback every time I read a comment like this, in New York of all places, where the pandemic is all but over.

I'm sure they have some say, but I believe the State has first say.

That's not Cuomo's style though. He is more of a "prohibit now, ask questions later kind of guy"

I mean, is it even a message board if there isn't a four-page argument about the backup QB?

Is the live stream just gonna be these two talking the whole time?

Wow do I miss going to TC

I just got the e-mail about this. I'm really looking forward to it.

Im convinced you just like arguing. You seem way too bright to say something so stupid.

Condescending considering the topic was Dabol’s head coaching prospects... The rest of this is just breathtaking revisionist history. The bit about the Dolphins being underrated, despite having one of the worst starts to a season in NFL history, is one of the most unserious things Ive ever read on this board.

Missing from your Quinn v. Anderson analysis is that Quinn was eventually benched in favor of Anderson part way through the season. Anderson was terrible. I appreciate Anderson had a good season, QBs (and NFL players in general) often have flash in the pan success; however, his career demonstrates that it was just that: a flash in the pan. Also missing is that Mangini wasn't the first coach to bench Anderson in favor of Quinn, further illustrating just how poor a QB Anderson ended up being. Finally, based on what you are pointing out, it appears he called an efficient run offense, but was severly hampered by bad QB play. As to Miami, if I recall correctly, they went from the 30th ranked offense to the 20th ranked offense. Though when I read that, I don't know that I looked to see if it was scoring or yards. Importantly, however, he took what was a very bad offense and milked every bit of offensive capability out of that team. Finally, regarding KC, he has the same problem -- QB. Cassel was always bad. It seems you criticize the Chiefs for bringing in Quinn, even though the roster isn't his decision. That aside, a recurring theme arises--to eek out that much offense with a terrible QB is a remarkable achievement. Especially with those running offenses. There are two conclusions here. First, it seems apparent that had management in those situations not completely cleaned house, he probably would have kept those jobs, particularly Miami and KC. Second, you can see why he is so respected in league circles, because he is managing to generate a surprising amount of offense from terrible rosters. What he did is akin to what happened with the Dolphins last year. Sure, that team was terrible by any metric. But Flores coached every bit of talent out of those guys, and they way over-performed expectations. I don't think Dabol did a Flores level job with his guys, but its the same basic concept. He got more out of his offenses than was expected. And you can't seriously think Dabol isn't respected in the league. He continues to get very good opportunities and even interviews for head coaching positions. I mean, you have to realize that is objective evidence of his reputation in the league.

And none of it analyzes or reflects on the players/circumstances he had to deal with. Naming the coaches and stating their records is all but meaningless to the question: how did he perform as an OC. More important inquiries are who were his qbs? His wrs? His rbs? Etc. Convenient you dont analyze those questions; ya know, the ones that matter.

Oh were you going to provide some?

A ton of words to say, “yes, you are correct.”

Its a weird habit we, as fans, have of failing to see context. Should we just completely ignore the players Dabol is coaching when evaluating his work? That seems crazy to me.

Im pretty sure every OC gig he lost was part of a house cleaning. The team fired every coach and brought in a new staff. Its not often that coordinators are kept in those situations. It doesnt really prove your point. JA improves and the offense is top 10, Dabol is a head coach next year. Anyone who thinks otherwise just isn’t paying attention.

My only point is that it is not uncommon for guys, who are well respected in the league, but dont have stellar resumes, to get hired as head coaches. Mike Pettine, Anthony Lynn, etc. Daboll, as much as may not seem like it, is very well respected in the league.

Mike Pettine says hi

The statement is factually true, it just has nothing to do with the point I was making.

Oh look, a non sequitur.

Poll won't tell you much...the only think you can see is the O-line break down immediately. You don't know what the play call is (the play fell apart too quickly); you don't know what McDermott decided; you don't know what Allen saw (maybe someone has the all-22 I guess).