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Even if north-south, he's running in wrong direction half the time.

No they are not. My opinion, which counts as much as everyone else says that EJ has shown nothing to this point and I have my doubts that he can step up. But he and the rest of QB's have to come up to speed with new coaches, new system and new play book. My preference is that EJ or TT win it as it becomes a long term solution. Having MC win means we are looking for our long term answer still which isn't a good thing.

I agree with everything you say. Just to add, not saying it was his fault that he got drafted where he is. My point is fans and the GM are using it as a reason to keep EJ in as the starter and wanting to put him and over value his worth to the organization. Again the hope is EJ steps up, but all indications are that he isn't capable to this point. Having an open mind towards our options is what is needed for fans. It doesn't have to be all EJ or nothing. Or all TT or nothing. Or all MC or nothing. How about we get the guy on field who can best run the offense and win now. Not develop a guy for 5 years and let the ship age and sink around him.

The question why the issue with EJ. I stated mine and I think many others opinion, along with some facts to support that opinion. RT averages 234 yards per game, 34 more than EJ. RT averages and always has a half yard more per throw. His TD to Int ratio even after his second year was a little better but not great. RT has over a 60% completion. RT has also improved every year, EJ slide back under the same coach. Also, if EJ was a 2nd rounder people would be okay with him being the backup and giving him more time. He is in an odd situation making 1st round money and expected to live up to a first round pick. Not be a career backup. If he was a 2nd rounder most people would be okay with the time to develop and if he only became a backup so be it. Again, he was rated by Scouts as the 6th best QB in a very bad draft class. I think half these guys are out of the league already. http://insider.espn.go.com/nfl/draft/positions/_/year/2013 https://medium.com/the-cauldron/ej-manuel-and-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-25e5dd1e3b79

Not sure about others, but EJ has shown nothing on the field, IMO. During the coaching interview process, several of the candidates basically said that EJ was the man by the GM. That turned off and eliminated several good coaching candidates. It appears that by the time Ryan interviewed, they had backed off that stance, and now EJ has to either step up or he likely is gone. From a personality standpoint, I haven't seen or heard anything negative. This isn't Losman who folks wanted to say was a great guy, but by all accounts including numerous teammates on Bills and from college, Losman was a complete butt. EJ hasn't had the same rumors around him. However, he hasn't taken the bull by the horn and proven he should have been taken in the first round. Just because they drafted him there, and moved up to get him, doesn't mean he was worth it. Just like Losman however, the thought was he'd be a mid-second rounder. He wound up being the first QB drafted when depending on who's ranking you went by he was rated between the 3rd and 6th best QB available. Like Losman, very athletic, and supposedly a runner. But like Losman, inaccurate, trouble seeing the field, and actually learned that running at NFL level is a different game than in college, which took a large part of his game away. In college the knock on him was that FSU simplified the offense to a 1-2 read and then told him to run. Again, college that works, pros not so much. The fact is he had 2 years to grasp the offense under Marrone and didn't. Marrone was a jerk, and that's been proven, but Marrone put a team on the field (defense or not) that won last year. The fact that EJ continued to make mistakes and got beat out by a journeyman QB who baically retired on duty should tell you how bad EJ was. Stats lie, but even in EJ's case they weren't good. He couldn't complete 60% of passes. Made some very bad throws to lose games. Similar to Tuel, who just got released. His td to int ratio isn't good for a guy who was told to protect the ball and not lose games. It's not good for a gun slinger either. Basically his td to int ratio is terrible. He averages under 200 yards per game, again not good. His yard s per throw is 1.5-2 yards less than the most starting QB's in the league. At 6.4 he is a half yard behind Geno Smith who was taken same year but much later than EJ. Let me ask a question. If we hadn't over drafted him and got him in mid-2nd round like he was projected would there be as much fuss about him playing? Probably not. The board would say that 2nd rounders rarely work out. A large part of those wanting to hand the job to EJ is the fact that the Bills drafted him in the first round. That's great, except, noone else in the league had him there. The Bills could have had him in the 2nd or 3rd. Smith and Barkley were both more highly thought of and projected to be drafted before EJ. Smith went in 2nd and Barkley in 4th. Again, if EJ had been drafted where he was projected this wouldn't be an issue with most fans and they'd be ready to move on. Similar to Trent Edwards. In fact I believe stats are similar. All that being said, it would be nice if EJ steps up, or Taylor wins the job. I suspect it's going to be Cssel or Taylor in the end.

And yet that group got the Bills to our best record Ina lot of years.

So a guy who can't even lead his team to .500 is better than a guy who basically retired on active duty but was 2 games over .500? What logic is that? So we should just let the Cubs into the playoffs even if they finish behind the Mets in wild card because you say so? And the guy over .500 only played scrubs like Green Bay, Detroit and KC, all of who were over .500 and 2 of which made playoffs. The guy under .500 played Chicago, Houston, Miami and SD, none of which made playoffs.

Better be one of the QBs or its going to be a long season.

Really? Seems like dog killers united. http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2015/05/29/falcons-linebacker-prince-shembo-charged-with-killing-dog/

I know OTA's going on yesterday and today. But sure seems like we received more from workouts on Tuesday, then the last two days. I also realized closed to media. But shocked that there has been a lot of post practice interviews and info from the OTAs.

It's like DC electing Barry all those years, even after leaving office as mayor he was councilman until death. Hell as far as I know he won the election for that seat from his grave.

Maybe Rex will convert him to FB.

Peyton should hang it up before that neck injury. Unless Broncos pull off a trade for a good LT, he should walk away.

No, skins had a much worse Oline than us. He was cut for a reason. He's terrible.

Except the new coach just said Galley is an idiot and that it's an open competition.

Good thing only criminals have guns n the great socialist republic of Maryland. Otherwise those poor criminals might not have a job or worse might die.

Soccer Who cares.

As I have been told recently. Saying ok and fine are usually not good. Makes you wonder why they moved Cassel up to work with 1's and EJ away. Must have been less than good most of the time. Only looking good on some things is not a ringing endorsement. I hope we as a team can overcome bad to poor QB play.

I thought Cassel and Tuel only with 2nd team today? Were EJ and Taylor so bad that they had to move Cassel in? This is telling if true.

Terrible throw. Cut him now.

And you call yourself a fan? You should be able to name every Bill from every camp, ever.

When he was hired. Said he would be given a chance but needed to use his legs more. Or when they said he was slow in getting the ball out. Or that they weren't sure and wanted to bring in other QB's to figure out the position.

So when Rex, and all the coaches say EJ good, then we believe. When they say they are bad, then the reporter took it out of context or is making it up to cause controversy. Got it. I get confused by how to exactly read what's stated.

If our 3rd string QB is play whether EJ, TT or Tuel, we are not making the playoffs. End of story

OJ could have sliced through the line. He would have gashed the opposing team up. He would have been like a knife going through butter.