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Tough crowd. Michaels and Collinsworth are one of only a few good announcing crews. It was fun listening to them gush about Edmunds and White.

Hoping for Houston.

4 picks. Can we start calling Devlin Hodges Wounded Duck?

Playoffs? PLAYOFFS!!!

Phew

Why on earth did we play prevent like it was the last play of the game when they're clearly in four down territory??

Josh with the bad feet again but it didn't matter. Put it right on the money and Kroft actually caught it.

Oof lucky that one didn't get picked

Oh my Gawd we caught one!

We're down on the road in the fourth quarter. ESPN flashes the graphic that Josh is #1 in the red zone this year among QBs. He has ~327 TDs and no INTs. Daboll sees this and proceeds to not give him the ball at all.

Good job Hauschka. At least someone's doing their job.

Daboll getting cute and it backfired

Yup. My bad

Second timeout burned by Josh this half. WTF.

Get line line TJ Watt. DPOY goes through Tre.

***** yeah Tre White!!!

Josh smacked his head really hard on that run. He followed that up with a very confused looking hand off and a ball thrown 10 yards short. Is he ok?

TJ Watt making a strong case for DPOY

I'm the first guy to point out Josh needs to be more accurate on these throws but the lack of ability by our receivers to make tough catches is getting really annoying.

Assuming it has no impact on our ability to win the division...obviously, yes. Treat it like a preseason game. Everyone starts but none of main guys play second half.

300 yard game from Josh likely means he had to throw more which probably means we lost. Let's save that for next year when we can afford it. I'll take efficient Josh who punks defenders with his legs and throws darts in the short to medium areas of the field. I'm way more concerned with the status of his ankle.

I mean sure...let's crown his ass after three complete games vs. Chargers, Browns, and Cards plus a couple quarters vs. Ravens and Bungles. Maybe Devlin needs to play a little more before he's considered better than any regular starter. Allen still has a lot to prove. There are going to be legitimate doubters until he proves he can be the reason we're winning. There are a lot of games where he's only doing just enough, and others where he's falling way short.

I didn't read through the whole thread but I don't understand why there aren't major sanctions. Pats have been caught doing this multiple times, and the NFL has had every chance to re-write their rules to dissuade this type of practice. If this isn't breaking any rules then the NFL should have to answer for it. Pats should have to forfeit draft picks at the very least.

Agree to disagree. If we're not going to include things like sacks then what's the point of using any stats? Completed passes, incompletions, net yards, they're all team stats. They all require play design, blocking, route running, reading the defense, etc. I think it's perfectly fine to use stats to help illustrate an argument, as long as they're not the sole argument. In this case, when you look at the way we failed to counter their blitz by finding hot routes, connecting on deep passes, adjusting protections, etc. (i.e. areas where the QB has a large influence) vs. the way they handled our pressure with their run game which included Lamar's RPO runs and scrambles, plus the key plays where Lamar came through to finish off drives, and you put all that into context with the offensive stats of both players, the picture becomes clearer as to who was the better player Sunday.

How so? Sacks are plays too. We gave up some bad ones. I posted this earlier in the thread but officially we got credited with only three drops. Can't say I agree with that but those are the numbers. I agree our receivers need to take some blame as does Daboll. Josh isn't solely at fault here, but he is at fault.