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That was for the other guy, sorry. He mentioned that Cooks has had 5 different QBs but failed to mention that two of them were first ballot HOFers. Do you think Cooks is a better WR than OBJ?

Fair enough, that may have been harsh. My point was that he'd be a solid #2, but I think he's a step back from OBJ, so again I'd be cool with a Browns downgrade. However, I want to hear more about this terrible QB instability that Cooks endured with...Drew Brees and Tom Brady.

Straight up garbage? Lol. He's just not an elite #1. He's not in the same class as Evans, Adams, or Beckham, to me personally, not speaking literally about the same draft class of course. It's okay dude. You can enjoy topping out at the 1100 yards that Brandin Cooks will provide like clockwork, it's not a hill I need to die on. I just consider him a journeyman vet that would be a #2 at best on this or any other elite team. Stevie Johnson, Houshmanzadeh territory. Nice, but not elite. And will add some context to my garbage - I'd rank that class Evans, Adams, Robinson, Landry, Beckham, then Cooks.

The Eric Moulds of his generation. I think I'd still take Evans over all of them. An absolute freak that doesn't get the respect he deserves, very similar to Robinson. Only player in NFL history to go over 1,000 his first seven seasons, and that streak's still active and barring injury he's going to hit 8 seasons this year. And he hasn't had nearly the continuity at QB as Adams. Brandin Cooks is the 2014 participation trophy as far as it comes to quality WR's from that draft. I'd probably rank him 6th, still behind Odell.

I still can't believe Tavon Austin is somehow on this Jags team. Still have a few days left but my excitement is running pretty low for this one.

I like this all very much. Yes, go get Cooks, Cleveland. Is there a better player that represents mediocrity than Brandin Cooks? Got to love the professionalism, but we all know he's a #2.

Diggs puts up one Diggsian 10 catch 180 yd performance in the next few weeks and this becomes a complete non-issue. I've been hearing this from fantasy talking heads too, as if Dawson Knox doesn't exist. Diggs is still on pace for over 1,150 yards and 7 TDs (16 games). Boo hoo, only 1,150 yards from our #1 wide receiver. Boy how the times have changed.

Yes totally, and it seems we agree, but also Alexander Mattison specifically is going to make some money some day. Like a modern day Michael Turner playing for San Diego in how clearly obvious it is that he can be a starting RB somewhere, so between those two only, give me the cheap guy.

Going through this Jags roster just to see if I should worry and I can't believe the Tavon Austin is actually on their roster right now. That seems perfect. No, I'm not worried about the Jags. I know you need to respect teams and all that but good lord this team is terrible. Carlos Hyde??? Carlos Hyde, Tavon Austin, Marvin Jones...these dudes are just collecting checks, c'mon now I think in some alternate dimension with better coaching/ownership/whatever that Laviska Shenault could be a great player.

Fair point at some point but still after today? He was great on pass rush. Is this Ed Oliver becoming the Ed we wanted or just an outlier performance? I don't want him on another team right now that's for sure, I think he's played beyond Shaq Lawson for example

Dude in that scenario I'd just go cheaper and steal Alexander Mattison, who looks nearly just as good as Cook but so far without the inevitable mid-season injury. Just wait, it's coming. Mattison will once again be a fantasy darling in Week 13 or whatever when Cook's hip or knee or ankle goes out again. Not sexy but I think you got to get an offensive lineman. Maybe call up the Jags, see if we can get Norwell for our interior.

Great writeup, found myself agreeing with pretty much all of it. He was a force in the 2nd half, was everywhere. Loved that play late in the game when he blew up Gaskins, and there was a split second during that play where you could tell that no running back in the league would stand a chance as long as Tremaine does his job. He will swallow you. He weirdly reminds me of a spider out there, he's just so much larger than everybody else, apex predator. Still seems to play softer than his size but I don't think he's ever going to be that thumper that gives you 8 sacks which is largely why people don't know what to think of him, but as long as he disrupts the passing game as much as he does and blows up runs like that a couple times a game I'm cool.

That kind of whine in general pretty much proves you're a bottom tier franchise. Don't pick on us on top of us being a miserable team stuck in QB purgatory guys, c'mon.

Not bumping to offend OP, but remember this being the most thorough Ed Oliver discussion recently. Any opinions changing after today?

I actually looked into this and am pretty sure that's Olaijah Griffin, practice squad CB (I had no idea). Only reasoning is it looks similar to his depth chart pic.

I feel for him if he's making it public and hope he gets the help he needs. Not armchair diagnosing as the brain is weird and it could be a million things, but I know people who have such crippling anxiety that going to the store is a problem, let alone functioning in a class or work environment. I think there's probably a correlation with joking about this and self medicating to the point where you don't know what year it is in which case you're kind of proving that mental health is serious.

Lol have you seen his other ones? It's typically a terrible post on sight.

Ha my first thought...man I'd love to hear Norm's take on this

I'm afraid of them. I don't really understand how Brady does it, he's still arguably top 3 in the league. Dude is regularly throwing for 400 yards at 49 years old, it's incredible. And he seemingly spreads the rejuvenation because now Fournette is now back on track and having one of his better years. And I'm a gigantic Mike Evans fan, and he's still just warming up this season. Quietly one of the best, HOF bound if he keeps it up. The kind of ridiculous WR that will ***** a soul crushing game winning TD. I think the Bills can take them, but I find them to be the second scariest team in the NFC right now - Cowboys, Bucs, Packers, Cardinals in that order for me now.

These are great. But now I need to know who the unidentified, mumbling player is.

But in all fairness outside of his return skills, it either took Cordarelle himself and/or the entire league multiple years to figure out that he can contribute like he currently is on offense. The guy was an afterthought on the Pats for example and even that was years ago. He's kind of a unicorn, so I don't know if you can just go get a guy like that. Who's another solid return man that could potentially harness serious offensive skills 8 years into their career? I think our best shot at anything like that is probably McKenzie.

It's kind of interesting when you pull up the backs that have the most receiving yards in the league right now - a lot of them are on teams that aren't good. D'Andre Swift? Patterson? McKissic? Wonder if there's some correlation with poorly functioning offenses and the need for a constant check-down option... It is all about the offense agreed, so I feel like we need to now compare TE stats next, or WR 2 and 3 stats, or average rushing yards per carry, for this complaint to hold any water.

Not old enough to know if they had similar running styles but agree that it's tough to compare, Henry's in a different league entirely. I think we're watching something historic with Derrick Henry right now. The Earl Campbell and Jim Brown comparisons are probably closer. I've only personally seen AD and Terrell Davis do what he's doing in terms of being the clear dominant RB in the league for multiple years in a row. He puts up another 2k this season and he leaps beyond even them as the most dominant RB I've ever seen. Might be tough to compare Cookie to that honestly.

This next one. Derrick Henry is historic. Another 130 and 3 TDs today on the ground like it's nothing. Pound for pound the Titans honestly worried me just about as much as the Chiefs coming into this season. AJ Brown has been way too quiet this year too. He's legit, that breakout game is coming against somebody.

Camera caught him getting really happy with about :50 seconds left, I thought it was awesome. He seems so serious and reserved most of the time but has cracked a few times now when things go well, like when he was running down the sideline stride for stride with a Taron's pick-6 vs Baltimore last year. Bet his players love him.