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Thought Vonn Bell was older than 28, I like that one. Risner seems like an obvious choice. Lots of interesting options in the 30-50 range, some near the top seem extremely overrated.

Nah. I think you've got the right idea for all of the young D-line talent though. If you can turn Zack Moss in to Nyheim Hines, then I'd like to see some more flips in general.

McCaffrey is great but he really does cannibalize Deebo's action in this offense. Thought it would be more 1a/1b but it just hasn't really happened. Deebo was one of the best offensive talents in the league last year and he has 2 carries today, with a broken QB.

Fair enough, genuinely curious and that's hard to argue. I think they've squandered Deebo a bit, and thought he'd be more unleashed today. Top talent in the NFC getting Zay Jones level touches right now. I think the Eagles are probably much better than most want to admit, and have simply found the Niners love (#1 in Power Rankings etc) annoying, so I'll admit my bias.

Why are you convinced the Niners are better despite the what is happening right now?

If you're down by 14 and the only difference is Brock Purdy, you're not the better team. San Fran the most overrated team in the NFL, I swear.

Why are so many convinced that project man would be going toe to toe with Hurts? He'd have 3 TDs by now? No.

I know it's early but I'm kind of happy to see this, not gonna lie. I got so sick of so many talking heads, including quite a few around here, that have been crowning the 49ers since about Week 11. It's Brock freaking Purdy. Yeah, I know he's not playing, but that's also the point. Similar to Tua you can't have your QB getting rag dolled, or sitting with a broken finger, or whatever it is that Josh doesn't do. The 49ers have been a paper tiger. They're not properly utilizing Deebo. The offense should run through him even with McCaffrey. Also, Brandon Aiyuk kind of sucks overall and is not even Tee Higgins level. The Bengals or Chiefs would eat this 49ers team. Eagles on the other hand, are a problem with all of that legit talent on offense.

Got to add that I think this post may overrate Hines RB2 ability as well, especially supporting a young back like Cook. Hines has a career 3.9 ypc and a whopping 8 TD as a running back in his 5-year career. That's pretty lame. What's not lame is his speed, and KR and pass catching ability. He's what they've wanted McKenzie to be. You don't need Hines and McKenzie. Get rid of McDummy, sorry. He's too many years deep to make the mistakes he does and offers nothing other than being a Hines back-up, but you can easily figure that out in the draft or FA. Quick dumb guys are everywhere. Hines is now your gadget player rather than a full on RB. Keep Motor, and completely ignore RB in the draft. Spend at least 2-3 picks, ideally early, on WR and TE.

He's currently playing arguably his best season ever and has been utilized more as a dagger in that offense with Hill gone. I agree with much of the rest of what you have listed but I wouldn't be surprised if Kelce has 3-4 more dominating years left at the rate he's going. He has the inside track to being the best TE ever right now. Amazon Prime cringe lord Tony G put up 800 and 7 TD at 37. Kelce might bank 1000-10 at 38 with Mahomes. And we made Hayden Hurst look like Kelce in both the playoff game and even in the shortened game. Hurst is not that good. He's not even Knox statistically. He occasionally runs routes and puts up 400 yards a season and we made him look like Travis Kelce, which to me means we've done absolutely nothing to address Kelce. Could you imagine if the Bills pulled it off last week and had to deal with playoff Kelce this week? Who's going to do that right now? Tre White might throw his body at him for a couple of PIs but nobody on this injury riddled defense is covering Kelce. For the sake of the thread I'm optimistic that we somehow find a way to neutralize AFC tight ends - Kelce, Gesicki, effing Hurst apparently.

It's the worst part about our situation in my opinion, considering the amount invested. Sometimes you forget that Epenesa and Basham were 2nd round picks. Whether it's their talent or the coaching, they still feel like project players trying to find their way. I still have hope for Groot, and have been huge fans of Oliver and Epenesa the few times they've done things, but it's a mess. Four early round draft picks and not a single one is doing anything. We're happy when they make any kind of impact and put up an average stat line. I don't know how you keep Oliver and Epenesa at this point. Epenesa's got journey man written all over him and will probably play for the Houston Texans at least once, it sucks to say.

I don't like that I don't really know how to answer this question. The homerism can't push me over the edge. I'm doubtful. I don't like that we either can't pick or develop players and yet we know that McD is involved in everything. He's a defensive minded coach (the only "defensive minded" coach in the playoffs this past weekend btw), and yet all of our d-line picks going back to Oliver are seemingly babies that are still being coached along to find their place. None on them are taking control. It's really kind of insane. We've got four early round draft picks on that line and not a single one of them is even playing consistently, let alone tearing it up as they should be. Are we supposed to wait until Year 6 in McD's galaxy for these defensive players that he clearly had an opinion on to turn things on, or is he just limited in terms of picking the right player and/or properly utilizing them? It's extremely frustrating and I don't think any of us can wait for another couple of years for some of these guys to figure it out. From Oliver to James Cook, we haven't had a good young player pop since Allen. It's been years now. Maybe Dawson Knox gets a limp thumbs up but he didn't even make the jump that a lot of us thought he would this year, and he was a straight gamble pick anyway. One of McDermott or Beane, likely both, share the responsibility for whiffing on either scouting or development.

Yeah but Eli Apple is only 27 and his insane helicopter mommy doesn't let him out of her sight anyway. No way he knew that. Was clearly mocking the usage by Damar/Buffalo.

10 months ago we had a great roster when Von and Hyde were healthy, Saffold wasn't a complete bum and was coming off a great season as a run blocker, Jamison Crowder's foot didn't fall off, everybody and their mother thought Knox and Gabe would take a leap, etc. This team clearly has a serious issue with player development, but on paper it was a fantastic roster heading into the season.

I don't understand why you've got to get rid of Motor for Foreman? This board makes it seem like Motor is the most boring player in history but he's averaged 4.7 ypc his career which is really solid, plus he doesn't make dumb mistakes, Josh loves him, etc. It's not flashy but I think keeping Motor and Cook if Motor is inexpensive won't open yet another gaping hole that needs to be filled. Now if they wanted to try something to lure top RB talent then that's a different conversation entirely, I just don't think Foreman or somebody similarly average is a better option than Motor at this point. I kind of like the Meyer for WR depth play. He played really well toward the end of this season.

Rodgers put up 3700 and 26 TDs with Romeo Doubs, Christian Watson, and 43 year old Randall Cobb this year, and people act like he's suddenly over the hill. No I do not want him on the Jets offense. He'll turn Garrett Wilson into the second coming of Davante Adams.

We've shown a pretty terrible lack of ability to develop players. Just look at our d-line. But, putting that aside, I'm excited about Cook, Shakir, and Groot in a void. Chances aren't very good unfortunately that they'll take a leap, but they could. We need somebody to make a tremendous leap next year. Baby stepping into a role player isn't going to cut it.

Given just the two for the sake of the thread - OBJ. We may never really see Michael Thomas ever again. He may end up being up there with Peyton Hillis and Barry Foster in terms of players that had great years and then completely disappeared. But have to agree that neither is the better option.

I honestly have no idea and barely even know who she is. Some internet model from a decade ago? I just feel like she's regularly made comments about wanting him out of Buffalo.

I swear she made some comment before the playoff game that sounded almost relieved that he'd be an FA. Like he just wrapped up hard time in Buffalo. She's annoying.

Lol Juanita Broadrick and Jack Posobiec. Why is it always these people? Grifters that have further leaned on the pandemic to grift the old and broken brained on any health related conspiracy possible. Broadrick is an absolute mess that was banned from Twitter until Elon. Now look at all the wonderful free speech she’s participating in…

It’s not so much about Diggs vs Chase as it is Higgins and Boyd vs Gabe and Mcdummy(?). We haven’t armed Allen like we should. Biggest issue this season was that we all thought Gabe and Knox would take a step forward, and they simply didn’t. It’s Diggs and a bunch of projects. Even KC went out and scooped Juju and Toney, both B grade WRs. We just do nothing.

Yeah it’s sort of a rebuild. Probably not popular but I think you may try to keep Motor for cheap if possible so that you don’t have another gaping hole. Serviceable is better than the mess we have at both lines and safety.

James Cook had 5 carries today. Nyheim Hines never got going on this offense despite having games where he saw 10 targets in Indy last year. It’s so insanely frustrating. We don’t need McCaffrey, we need to know how to develop and utilize existing players. The Hines stuff is insanity, he’s not even a rookie!

Was Von on the sidelines? Not his job to coach kids but it just occurred to me how little he may have been involved after the injury. Team has some issues man