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Not trying to rain on any parades, but it's not really encouraging that the only free agent worth keeping is a 35 year old linebacker. It's all gonna come to Josh Allen really.

There are very few things in life more annoying than watching the Superbowl with a bunch of people with "limited" knowledge of the game. The commercial crowd if you will. Superbowl parties are a waste of my time. If I want to party, I'll party. If I want to watch football, I'll watch football. Not a fan of mixing the two.

I totally disagree with this assessment. If Kyle Williams was an average player, he'd still be a class act, but nobody would care. The reason we're celebrating him is partially because of his character, but mainly because he was an outstanding TALENTED football player. Not to nitpick this post, but it seems like his actual football accomplishments get overshadowed by his persona. The guy was a baller for many, many years at a grueling position.

If you read the questions, it seems like it was a conference call from the Cincy media trying to goad Butler into a stupid answer. Not sure if that's the case, but it's a terrible look either way.

Like many others, I'm surprised he wasn't ranked higher.

At this point in time, there's no such thing as a bandwagon Bills fan.

The losing has really sucked the life out of my "devotion." I remember sitting in a bar celebrating a meaningless TD in the season finale against the Dolphins that made the score 31-6 Miami. Pretty sure we went for 2 and didn't convert. I was around 20 at the time. After all these years of losing, I've become much more emotionally numb to negative outcomes. I was a cockeyed optimist at the time and pretty much believed in everything the organization did. How times have changed.

I think most of the fans are still with him because of the Rich Rod/Hoke debacles. As much as they're dissatisfied with losing to OSU/bowl games, they WANT to believe he's going to get it done "NEXT YEAR." Awkward is spot on. They should pay more attention to the guy coaching the basketball team who is truly ELITE, but that's another story.

I understood your point. While I understand that Kyle was dedicated and a great locker room presence, he was also an extremely talented player who MADE PLAYS. That's the distinction between him and a guy like Star. This thread is about Kyle so I'll leave it at that.

Star is the antithesis of Williams, but I'll reserve critique for another thread.

People will correctly scoff at this, but there was a time early in Kyle's career where the old school types didn't like him all that much. Didn't hold up well enough at the point of attack, etc. All he does is "make plays." I may be in the minority, but I like guys who make plays. I see a lot of the same criticism of Milano, who just "makes plays."

Todd Gurley with the "I don't know he do it. He special" That was my favorite line. Just awesome.

First Daboll, now Schoen???? 2019 is looking more and more grim by the day!! Wait, who's Schoen?

This. He gets the lunch pail label for obvious reasons, but what made him an outstanding football player was TALENT. If lunch pails lead to success, we'd have had a similar thread dedicated to Tim Anderson a few years back.

We may have a bad supporting cast, but our OC is apparently a hot commodity around the league.

How so? I'm talking about the player, not the circumstance. Allen has virtually nothing in common with Goff. Goff is a pocket passer with nice touch and accuracy lacking a huge arm and mobility. Trubisky and Allen are both big, mobile QB's who's main issues are accuracy and touch.

Trubisky has really given me some hope. He's far and the way the closest comparison to Allen in terms of recent draftees. Would love to see that kind of second year jump for JA. Nagy has obviously made a world of difference in Chicago, but hey, Daboll is a hot HC candidate so who knows? My biggest fear is another Ryan Tannehill. A guy who lingers for years because he does just enough right to make people think he's the guy. Time will tell.

The problem with that thinking is that if you roll the FS over to Collinsworth, Carl Pickens will torch man coverage. Damned if you do, damned if you don't kind of thing. And I wouldn't discount the possibility that Cincy may be thinking about a quarterback change. Coslet is known to favor this kid named Jeff Blake. Might not be a bad thing for Esiason with Greene and Lloyd gunning for his head every play.

Then we get back to everyone else on the team sucks! It's circular logic that never advances the conversation. My guess is that if Allen improves and sites like PFF grade him higher, it will suddenly become a terrific measure of a QB's efficacy. I respect the time people have taken to quibble with some of PFF's methodology but still find it to be a valuable assessment tool. That's just me.

I'm thinking Angelo Crowell is gonna have to come up big in coverage or it could be lights out.

Somehow that fool has more receiving yards than the QB has passing yards. That's nuts. Interesting prospect.

You're crazy. If we can find a Timmy Euhus in this draft, our offense will be immediately transformed. His can do spirit is infectious and will inspire his fellow TE group to play the game the right way and give 113.4%. Talent and speed are nothing without grit and lunch pails full of hard work and determination.

That's fair, but I'm pretty sure Zay was a McDermott special. When you consider they didn't make a robust effort to address receiver in the offseason and combine that with Ray Ray and Proehl, it would seem that Beane thought Jones would improve more than he has. BB has a chance to make it right this off season, but there is certainly reason for concern.

The most important thing for this particular game is the growth and development of Josh Allen. It's gonna be key for Travis Henry to chip on Trace Armstrong because I'm not 100% convinced Bell is gonna hold up one on one.

Pretty sure 4th is the highest but lowest is 11th or 12th. Pretty sure we'll be picking 11th or 12th.