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Let's see where we are then, at the end of this year.

This is the 5th game into year 2. I guess we both agree that he should be established by the end of year 2 and not by the 5th game then. Like I said, I said. I'll buy the beer! Man, some of these discussions sure get wonky!

Define genius

I'm not getting your point. I guess your point is that JA should be developed and performing like a veteran 5 games into this season. Help me understand our differences.

I believe this is exactly what I said.

Do you think this is a reasonable expectation for a soph QB? When JA was drafted, I thought the best path for his development was to sit for a year, then start this year with it being another development year for him, with plenty of growing pains; pains that needed to happen towards his growth into the QB we all want him to be. He's gotten tossed into the fire early with expectations beyond anything I certainly thought reasonable for his second year with the Bills. And I don't think this is only about JA. There are eight new guys around him on O and they are all learning how to play with each other. I thought we would be a good 6-8 games into the season before they became even somewhat a cohesive, collaborative, unit. I believe the Bill's O leads the league in false starts. There have been a number of plays in each of our last few games that confirm for me that they are not all on the same page yet. That is going to have to happen before we can get some more scores out of JA and the O. One of JAs strengths is his scrambling. Our WRs have to learn to extend their plays to compliment JA's scrambling and this is a deficit to our offense yet today. Case in point, Yeldon had a good chance of making that catch last week, or at a minimum preventing the interception. Our O is still adapting to the fact that JA can extend many plays with his athletic ability. Lineman, backs and WRs jobs need to be a good 5 seconds longer each snap. As all of them learn to extend their play, more good things will happen. Alternatively, we can coach JA to not extend plays. If that's were we go, I think we're giving up a significant advantage we have with him behind center. And this isn't a choice between him throwing good or bad passes. That exists whether we extend plays or not. My point here is that extending plays doesn't mean we get more bad passes out of JA. That improvement from JA needs to happen either way we go. I love the excitement and expectations. I think it's important to understand it may be too much too soon.

Getting a flag for tossing the challenge flag was kinda funny yesterday

This

Not in the least. You are over reacting. Significantly over reacting.

undefeated but not perfect a pitcher can throw a no hitter and not have a perfect game

mass hysteria

Josh has a pretty decent following among the MWC schools that he played in and against - California, Nevada, Colorado, New Mexico and Idaho. I go to many MWC games and Josh is brought up from opposing fans all of the time. They are watching and following him.

Intelligence matters in a QB. Josh is the most intelligent QB out of his class. Now, in addition to being smart one needs to want to learn more. I think that Josh has that desire. He's not arrogant to the point of believing he knows it all. I think Baker and the other Josh think they know more than they do and that has and will continue to stall their development. Brady doesn't have the most athletic ability, he never has. But dang that guy is smart. He's perhaps the smartest QB I've experienced. And today he has a lot of wisdom in addition to all of that intelligence.

We don't actually know how brilliant his mind is because his mouth is always a mile out in front of his mind.

Nah, there will still be more "wait and see" folks out there than anything else. All the pro Bills fans are saying any given Sunday before the game. Al the anti Bill folks will be using "any given Sunday" as the excuse to still put the Bills down.

I'd really like to know who was behind the tweeting messaging that came out the day before the draft and what that was all about. Was it only to hurt Allen? Was it being done to drop him into a later pick by a team that wanted him? I'd buy this book. I think Allen was in the Mayfield, Darnold class and I figured these would be the first three selected. Of these three I think Darnold was the safest pick, but safest isn't always the best pick. Mayfield had the attitude. Allen had the bigger upside. Rosen was, is and always be a head case.

Giant fans were largely upset with the Jones pick because of the school he came out of.

He didn't come from a blue blood school. Duke for football? Doesn't compute.

Know thy enemy

How's Belichick going to defend the Bills and disrupt Josh? The Bills need to counter this and take what they're given. I think NE will put as much pressure on Josh as they can. Allen, the WRs and TEs need to be aware of where that pressure is coming from and give Allen those quick hits and getting the YAC on that side of the ball. RBs have to pick up those blitzes, while looking to release for the short pass and YAC. I think Allen will have buy extra time with scrambles and all receivers down field need to find the open spots quickly. Take advantage of the NE's aggressive play. On D, I don't think we'll get to Brady fast enough for too many sacks. Lineman need to get their hands up and tip some balls.

Allen has the ability to extend plays with his scrambling. I've been impressed with how Brown, Beasley and Sweeney/Knox have found the open space when Allen scrambles. The Pats haven't defended anything like that yet this year.

A 1+ pt win

Eye test, it appears to me that Cincy is better

I don't disagree with you that Jones did a great job. I like the kid. I meant 20yds, but 10yds probably works just as well,. The greater point is that as distance of pass increases, accuracy decreases. Always has, always will.

In the northeast, you are correct.