Pokebball
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6 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Bragg did not campaign on “getting” Trump.https://www.politifact.com/article/2023/apr/12/heres-what-manhattan-district-attorney-alvin-bragg/
Here's what Bragg said, interpret that as you may...
While campaigning, Bragg said: "I have investigated Trump and his children and held them accountable for their misconduct with the Trump Foundation. I also sued the Trump administration more than 100 times for the travel ban, the separation of children from their families at the border. So I know that work. I know how to follow the facts and hold people in power accountable."
He also said that he would continue with Vance's investigation and hold Trump "accountable by following the facts where they go."
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3 minutes ago, Scraps said:
The DA wouldn't have changed.
the jury in the DAs district would have. It's a moot point now, except for the appeals process
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8 minutes ago, BillStime said:
Should the venue and judge in the classified documents case be changed?did anyone incolved in this case campaign on getting trump?
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10 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
Here's a thought: maybe it's not the end of the Republic.
Maybe if young men (and face facts, we're talking about men) with political aspirations learn that they will be prosecuted for breaking the law even though they are well-connected, there will be a new class of politicians who don't treat the law as nonbinding guidance.
Venue changes are extremely rare, and are based on pre-trial publicity in a particular district that could be addressed by moving the trial elsewhere.
Where could we have moved OJ's trial? Trump's trial? Were the prospective jurors of WDNY (Buffalo) unaware of who this Trump fellow is and what people say he's done or been wrongfully accused of doing?
Such motions are not based on how the district's populace voted in the last election.
Venue changes, particularly, are done to obtain fairness. Given the DAs campaigning on getting Trump and the recent civil case, I don't think it would have been odd at all.
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1 minute ago, Scraps said:
I guess Trump shouldn't have committed the crimes in Manhattan.
Venues and judges are changed all the time to achieve fairness in our judicial processes. Not necessary opining that either should have happened in this case, but fairness is always considered pretty important in our judiciary. Bias is always considered, both in fact and in appearance. Odd the powers didn't think either was necessary in this case.
We'll see what the appeals process concludes.
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Just now, The Frankish Reich said:
The jurisdiction always matters.
The judge always matters.
Don't do the crime if you can't do the time.
So we've answered the "so what"! Making progress
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2 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
No wonder all those hedge fund managers and Black Rock CEOs are lining up for Biden
They support both, don't they?
Just now, L Ron Burgundy said:He's being tried because he committed crimes. And 34 felonies may result in a different outcome for once than a slap on the wrist. More to come too. He's done worse than this.
Again, the ends justifying the means
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4 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:
And…NY did and 12jurors agreed. So what?
So what?
You don't think jurisdiction mattered in the case? You don't think the judge mattered in this case?
Interesting
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5 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:
But yet the IRS didn't charge him for any tax crimes.
Or the federal election commission.
And all of this in a jurisdiction that is not prosecuting some pretty serious crimes. This was clearly political.
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3 minutes ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:
Based on his entire life. He’s a mobster. We almost always win against them on financial charges. He’s no different
This is the definition of the ends justifying the means
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1 minute ago, Joe Ferguson forever said:
You seem as upset as I feel celebratory. Relax. A vile criminal is getting his comeuppance. I’m Listening to trump spew lies in twisted English. And the MAGAs will lap it up and never question his statements. To them, truth doesn’t matter.
A vile criminal? Based on this trial? Like I said...
The ends are justifying the means for you
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17 hours ago, B-Man said:
Does anyone doubt that the “cackling hens here, see Roundy, Muppy, et al,would have come down to PPP if the verdict had been reversed
No.
they are the weakest type of poster.
I have to say that the response from either side was probably predictable, right? I'm sad for the state of our country today.
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2 minutes ago, ChiGoose said:
Standard practice in NYS courts.
I believe the concern is that if the jurors have a copy of the instructions they’ll focus on that instead of the actual evidence.so go to the judge each time they have a question about the instructions?
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2 minutes ago, leh-nerd skin-erd said:
There is sustained debate of whether or not this case is purely political, whether or not Bragg took a novel approach to prosecuting this case, and decisions made by the judge throughout the course of the trial. You then chose one statement, as reported, to suggest discussions on bias are unreasonable based on a system you, yourself, have raised questions about.
this x 1000
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31 minutes ago, The Frankish Reich said:
What if the jury instruction, based on New York law, is "was concerned?" In other words, 55% concerned about Melania, 45% about the election. It seems that would do, wouldn't it?
Add it all up to achieve "beyond a reasonable doubt"?
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14 minutes ago, BillStime said:
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Still peddling the bloodbath lie. What's that tell you about Kamala?
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21 hours ago, Doc said:
No need to lie. Biden's got a terrible track record to go after, not just empty promises for when he gets into Office.
This is just the thing. There is enough truth and reality to hit Biden with. Biden's the one peddling daily lies.
47 minutes ago, Doc said:And Biden won't use gross exaggerations and anecdotal nonsense?
Come on man
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6 minutes ago, Tommy Callahan said:
Lol at all the Dem influencers posting edited photos trying to imply Trump's rally wasn't packed. Purposely cutting out the time stamp that shows it was 7 hours prior.
always trying to "create" the news rather than reporting the news. And note this is one of the largest MSMs, ABC
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1 minute ago, BillStime said:
My personal finances and investments couldn't be better!
THANKS BRANDON!
Mine can. Mine can always be better
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2 minutes ago, daz28 said:
Still better than censoring factual speech on the floor of the House that criticizes the private citizen king, but let's talk about what the CIA may or may not have done. Remember when trump's CIA director destroyed the video evidence of torture, that got her the job??
A mistake is to try to make this a Dem or Repub thing
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13 hours ago, ChiGoose said:
Truth hurts.
Prejudices are what fools use for reason
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10 hours ago, Doc said:
Not false at all. Biden took classified information he never had any business having. He knowingly kept them. He kept them in a wholly insecure location. And he shared some with his ghostwriter. You can deny it all you want, but everyone, even daz28, knows it's true.
But he's senile and to charge someone with something you need to be absolutely sure you can get a guilty verdict. Because in the history of the US, there have never been any "not guilty" verdicts (apparently
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Biden's above the law
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1 hour ago, ChiGoose said:
Nah, it’s actually that the criminality of the right at the moment is fairly unprecedented. Simply applying the law as it’s usually applied results in literally hundreds of MAGA people being prosecuted.
That then gets spun as bias by grifters and conmen as politicization instead of fairly straightforward enforcement of the law.
blue shades
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Just now, ChiGoose said:
Fun fact: Trump wasn’t charged under the PRA.Of course not
Wherever you are, remember this moment for the rest of your life.....
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Everyone holds biases to some extent. Bragg pursued Trump hard and he made that a part of his campaign for DA. I think it's pretty clear he had significant bias against trump, and clearly campaigned on it.
What's your case against Cannon?