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How does biting the bullet for 1 year in 2018 to free up money in future seasons put the Bills in a worse cap situation in future seasons? I’m not sure what you just wrote...

Beane isn't good with the cap? That's news to me... he's been one of the better spenders per production in the entire NFL since 2017.... When you're trying to fill holes through free agency early on you're going to often overspend relative to the talent available. Now we're starting to get to the point where we are retaining our own and paying them accordingly... what's the issue? You can't pay your own guys until A) You have your own guys and B) They're eligible to be paid.

I really don't think Edmunds was every really the question anyone made it out to be. Josh's extension will be done before the end of June.

This is a convenient reframing of the truth... the fumble occurred in the first half of the game and the Mahomes missed part of the 3rd Q and all of the 4th. Don’t make it sound so close 😂

Might be true... how many points did we drop on those DB last year? We scored 87 points against Miami last year... 62 against New England. What changes have they made in the secondary that I’m supposed to be afraid of?

Really shocking to me all 32 teams are passing on these star CBs 2-3 times in one draft...

To assume a 3rd round pick is an immediate upgrade is, well, hubris.

Oh you mean the UDFA that’s been an effective starting CB2 on a playoff team two years in a row?

The world must be ending.

Etienne is a great talent. That being said I would be upset if we took him at #30. Which means I’d be even more upset if we traded up to take him. With THAT being said, I’m also not going to behave like the sky is falling if we take him or trade up to take him.

Hey guys... I could really use some help.. I remember maybe a month or so ago Brandon Beane saying something along the lines of “ I know most GMs don’t like to build relationships, but I that’s not how I approach things. I like to build relationships and stay true to myself” I’m paraphrasing... my recalling of the quote might be way off... but that’s the spirit of that statement. I would love if someone could link that actually quote for me because I can’t find it... Thank you in advance!

This won’t be worked into his contract. I promise you that. Interesting thought though.

I would guess yes... there’s been no talk about getting rid of masks for vaccinated individuals because of the different strains. I was watching Fauci speak and he said that because the vaccine isn’t as effective against strains of the virus that we need to continue to wear masks.

Quote the rest of my post with all of the excerpts from the Ringer, CBS, The Baltimore Sun, USA Today...

If I had said it was the most polarizing pick, then yes, it would suggest he was not worthy of a first round pick. I did not say that... I don’t know why you keep implying that’s what I said. I didn’t say anything about him being a polarizing pick. I said he was the most polarizing prospect. He can be a polarizing prospect and not a polarizing pick. Here’s the definition I’m using: to break up into opposing factions or grouping. Did evaluations of Josh Allen not cause that to occur and very often? I literally threw you 4 different articles where I googled Josh Allen and polarizing and they came up from 4 different authors... there were plenty more... I guess those were all outlying opinions too... Since you likely didn’t even open those links... Allen has emerged as the most polarizing prospect in the 2018 draft class. On the same day that ESPN’s Mel Kiper slotted Allen as his top overall pick in a mock draft, Pro Football Focus’s Steve Palazzolo didn’t even project Allen being taken in the first round. Allen is either a strong-armed, mobile gunslinger with all the potential in the world, or a mediocre, inaccurate passer who won’t be able to overcome his drawbacks. It just depends on which draftnik you ask and this... Allen’s ability to play quarterback has been a point of contention in football circles for years. Heading into that draft, analysts were divided into two camps. The first was obsessed with his tools and salivated over the prospect with the prototype build and the cannon arm. The second was horrified by his statistics and couldn’t look past Allen’s underwhelming college numbers. The tools camp saw an athletic marvel unlike any other; the stats camp saw a QB who barely managed competency against subpar Mountain West competition. Then Allen reached the pros, and the divide somehow got starker. The Bills went 10-6 and made the playoffs in Allen’s second season thanks largely to one of the league’s best defenses, but statistically Allen appeared to be one of the NFL’s worst quarterbacks. The pro-Allen camp credited Allen for the Bills’ successes; the anti-Allen camp argued he was holding the team back, and that Buffalo would be a Super Bowl contender if it merely had an average quarterback. or this... Prospects are too often depicted as "polarizing," yet that label seems apt for Allen given the gulf between his backers and skeptics. maybe this...? Against Iowa and Oregon in 2017, Allen tried to do way too much too often to compensate for the large discrepancy in talent between both clubs. He looked undraftable in those contests. The rest of his film -- in games other clubs from the Mountain West and other small-school opponents -- isn't downright brutal does this make sense? No matter Allen’s John Elway-like arm, they said, his poor accuracy would doom him to a path more like that of Ravens draft misfire Kyle Boller. People didn’t say this...? That makes for a polarizing situation, as Allen is projected by some as the potential No. 1 overall draft pick and by others as a player who doesn’t deserve a Round 1 grade. Why you’re arguing this... I don’t know...

Dude... what are you talking about? Just because people said he was a first round pick doesn’t mean that the prospect is not polarizing... The pick can be expected and the prospect can still be polarizing... I am not talking about if the pick was expected or not... I’m talking about the decision to pick a prospect that had a wide variance of outcomes and assessing everything properly. If my claim is off the way... cite some actual evidence to support the contrary. I’ve already cited enough supporting my claim.

I didn’t say polarizing pick. I said polarizing prospect. Two totally different things.

You’re behaving as if I said he was a surprise first round pick. That’s not what I’m saying... but that’s what you’re describing. I said he was a polarizing prospect. Polarizing and surprise pick are two different things. I don’t think we’re in disagreement with the fact that he was talented and going to go high in the draft. Although some felt he shouldn’t be a first round pick or that he was only a projected 1st round pick because teams were desperate for QBs. He can still be polarizing despite that. There were a variety of outcomes that people predicted for Josh Allen... when I say polarizing I don’t mean the pick was out of left field... I mean he was a polarizing prospect that many pegged to be a bust. Plenty of anonymous scouts discussed how polarizing he was because the performance didn’t match the tools. That’s what all of those articles were... I didn’t write them myself lol

Lol I think it rolls off the tongue nicely when you say it 😂

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.theringer.com/platform/amp/2018/1/23/16925662/josh-allen-nfl-draft-senior-bowl-wyoming https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/bs-pr-sp-ravens-lamar-jackson-josh-allen-afc-divisional-round-20210115-gibp3oabjzgchhlyiqx6nbsnna-story.html%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/buffalowdown.com/2018/04/06/buffalo-bills-closer-look-polarizing-josh-allen/amp/ https://www.si.com/nfl/2017/11/14/josh-allen-wyoming-2018-nfl-draft-top-small-school-prospects excerpt from a B/R article this year... What do the scouts whose predraft assessments made Allen such a polarizing prospect—boom or bust—make of the wide respect he's receiving now and its influence on upcoming drafts? Are they surprised by his play this season, or did they really see this coming?

He was a near consensus pick because B/R had him going 1.1? Come on man... you’re really going to try and pretend like Josh wasn’t a polarizing prospect? He was mocked to the Bills because the Bills were interested in him... which means the Bills did their homework and took a swing on the most polarizing prospect ever and hit. Feel free to introduce more polarizing draft prospects...

That doesn’t make him any less polarizing?

I appreciate the kind words. I’m glad they put together a better version of my analysis... I’d be curious to see the cumulative... Bills are probably what top 3 during that span? I don’t necessarily understand your point about elite players in 2018? You’re lucky if you get 1 per draft. The whole point is that in comparison to their peers they’re better and more consistent. Indianapolis and Baltimore are right up there too. The front office’s only job isn’t drafting players either... they do everything at a very high level. Draft, FA, salary cap, pro personnel, culture, staff hires, etc. That’s what makes them the best in the league.

Nope. There isn’t.

I mean it’s not made up... talked about pretty often. Gaine, Boyd, Schoen, Morgan and Lake Dawson were the ones I was referring to. Gray is another one.