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I mean maybe that’s how the voters are going to vote? If you’re just looking at pure numbers, strength of competition, record, etc. they’re just about equal. Josh has 4 wins against top 10 defenses mixed in there… Burrow hasn’t played a defense rated better than 13th. Burrow has had an incredible season, just like Josh. Recency bias is dumb.

Burrow? 10-6 70.4% Completion 4611 Passing 34 TD 14 INT 118 Rushing 2 TD 2 FMBL Lost 4729 Total Yards 36 TD 16 Turnovers Allen 10-6 64.1 Completion 4168 Passing 34 TD 15 INT 700 Rushing 6 TD 3 FMBL Lost 4868 Total Yards 40 TD 18 Turnovers And for all the flack the Bills get for not beating good teams… Cincinnati has played the easiest schedule in the NFL according to DVOA. They’ve yet to even play a top 10 defense. Don’t get me wrong Burrow is great… but he’s not doing more than Josh Allen. It’s Rodgers MVP and should be unanimous.

Cam Newton was also never close to the passer Josh is. God forbid Josh gets to the point where he can’t run like he does now, he’s still an unbelievable pocket passer and would adjust as needed. I’m not advocating that we continue to run Josh into the ground. I want a beefed up offensive line and legit run game as much as anyone on here. I just feel like the Cam Newton/Josh Allen comparisons are worn out. Josh is WAY more well rounded than Cam ever was.

Aw *****. If he never plays exactly the way we dream of him, he’ll only be the best QB in the league. What a shame. He’s shown the capacity to learn and improve at an insane rate. He’s revamped so much in just 4 years… it’s pretty incredible actually. He’ll get around to it… but you can only break so many bad habits at one time.

Haha this made me chuckle. First off, I actually didn’t mind Sanchez on the call at all. I don’t remember the exact point in the game, but Sanchez was kind of griping over something Josh did. Maybe he was in disbelief… I honestly don’t remember the context. Anyway, my dad goes “Well Mark, you can’t believe it because your signature play was the butt-fumble.” I got a good little chuckle out of that.

All of those coaches outside of Reid won their Super Bowl within their first 5 seasons. If McDermott doesn’t win the Super Bowl this year… we’re doomed!!! DOOMED!

Since we’re doing hypotheticals… Let’s just say we don’t trade for Diggs. We keep our pick and draft Justin Jefferson. Instead the Patriots trade for Stefon Diggs and Tom Brady never leaves. This isn’t really just a hypothetical… it was a realistic possibility.

Saints. Arm was hit on the throw.

Literally the most overrated player in all sports. I hate Josh Allen. He doesn’t deserve to be the NVP let alone the MVP. I’m going to put him down at every chance I get because I have absolutely unrealistic expectations!!!!!! Did I do it right?

Regular season he’s 48-32. Good for a .600 winning percentage. I’m pretty sure I saw someone say there’s only like 3 active coaches at or above that mark. If anyone has the tweet, please share.

I’ll lower the bar and just do playoff appearances… Gurley had 2 in his first 5 seasons. Ingram had 2 in his first 5 seasons. Elliot had 2 in his first 5 seasons. McCaffrey has 1 in his first 5 seasons. Fournette will have 3 in his first 5 seasons.

You’ve listed 5 top 10 picks and then Ingram who was the Heisman winner. There’s not a RB talent like that in the draft… you can’t just take a 1st round guy and assume he’s going to be that caliber of talent because he was selected RD1. Why not list Chubb, Taylor, Cook, Henry, Mixon and say we need THAT GUY now to help Josh Allen? The value is horrible taking a RB in RD1.

Again, you’re just making the point for not taking a 1st round RB. A guy you’re taking in the 1st round shouldn’t be someone you think you’re going to have to replace in 5 years. You’re looking for someone that’s a long term building block. A guy you sign to a second contract… most RB don’t make it there and if they do they seldom last. I’ll just list the last decade(ish) of 1st round RB… hardly murderers row and how many made it to another contract (and saw the end of that)? 2010: CJ Spiller, Ryan Mathews, Jahvid Best 2011: Mark Ingram 2012: Trent Richardson, Doug Martin, David Wilson 2015: Todd Gurley, Melvin Gordon 2016: Ezekiel Elliot 2017: Leonard Fournette, Christian McCaffrey 2018: Saquon Barkley, Rashaad Penny, Sony Michel 2019: Josh Jacobs 2020: Clyde Edwards-Helaire 2021: Najee Harris, Travis Etienne

No. You don’t… not in RD1. When has this worked for a team in the last 10 years? The sweet spot is RD2 - RD3. Your point about running them into the ground is EXACTLY why you don’t spend a RD1 pick on a RB.

I’m starting to do the arithmetic on the potential Head Coach openings and rumored names… we might not lose Frazier or Daboll… again.

Kyler’s collegiate numbers came from 1 season where he dominated against Power 5 schools. He was a 5-star recruit that transferred and had to sit out 1 season. Then sat behind heisman winner and #1 overall pick… before he did it himself Josh’s collegiate numbers were across 2 seasons where he struggled against some of the bigger schools he played and took a step back after returning to school in 2017. What exactly are you trying to show?

Some of my favorite guys for 2022… Trevor Penning OT, Northern Iowa Ahmad Gardner CB, Cincinnati Trent McDuffie CB, Washington Daniel Faalele OT, Minnesota Kyler Gordon CB, Washington Alec Pierce WR, Cincinnati Velus Jones Jr. WR, Tennessee Clint Ratkovich H-Back, NIU

The whole timeline of where they were as a franchise and roster building really is escaping you, huh?

Bills win + Ravens loss. Bills win + Chargers loss + Raiders loss. These are just two of the scenarios to clinch a spot this week.

Well why don’t you break down exactly why Josh COULD be “fast-tracked” or whatever? You just said the offense was bad around him… well there’s a reason he couldn’t be 2020 Josh Allen right there out of the box and you admitted it. They’re not excuses? You asked for REASONS why Murray could be fast-tracked and Allen could not. You seem to live in a very strange world.

Playing time definitely factors in to this discussion… but raw doesn’t just have to do with playing time. Level of competition in college, level of coaching, level of coaching HS, outside QB camps, etc. Kyler was a 5-star recruit that was exposed to high level football and coaching much earlier than Josh. There was a lot that Josh still had to figure out when he got to the NFL. Kyler will also likely have to throw for ~30 TDs for the first time in his career to reach that mark.

Don’t take a RB in the first round.

Oddly enough, I believe this interview process right now is new and supposed to alleviate those issues. Ironically the Bills proposed this past offseason that interviews should begin after the conference championships and hiring should take place after the Super Bowl. The rest of the teams didn’t go for it because they felt it would set them back for free agency/draft planning.

Falcons could be down their CB2, starting slot and starting FS on Sunday.

Most of the conversation I’ve seen here is about how Josh should at least be in the discussion. Some people are throwing him out entirely Rodgers should win with Josh as the runner up again. Issue is it doesn’t seem like he’s even getting that recognition.