JGMcD2

You made 1 comment about Tre White prior to the draft, you mentioned 2011 5th round pick Johnny White more than you mentioned Tre’Davious White. The 1 comment you made was nothing close to a comment with conviction about Tre White being the top corner in the draft. You said he would be a RD2 or RD3 pick… does that mean you didn’t have any CB rated as RD1 picks in 2017? Then you didn’t discuss the player for about 5 months… until all of a sudden with only one prior instance of discussing Tre’Davious White on the message board, you say he’s your favorite corner. For you to make the comment upthread that you were the only person to have Tre White rated as the #1 CB on this message board would have required you to have definitively said something of the sort leading up to the draft. You’re completely misrepresenting your support for Tre’Davious White. You mentioned him 1 time and are pretending like you were screaming it from the rooftops leading up to the draft.

Look, I’m not saying you’re wrong… just don’t misrepresent what you actually said. That’s the whole point. You’re behaving like it was some well known fact that you were championing Tre White… it wasn’t… you mentioned him 1 time prior to the Bills selecting him.

This would be great if I could find anything between January 1, 2016 and April, 27 2017 that even gave me a whiff of conviction as it pertained to Tre'Davious White. You said Tre'Davious White's name EXACTLY 1 time.. you actually mentioned the name Corey White just as much as you did Tre'Davious White prior to the draft. Ironically, you said the name Johnny White more between January 1, 2017 and April, 27 2017 than you did Tre'Davious White... This is you exact quote on Tre'Davious White from December 26, 2016: I haven't really done much individual analysis but at a glance I thought a guy like Tre'Davious White might end up being a terrific corner and being a very good tackler he might translate to S one day and that long term package might be a second or third round investment versus the steep price for his teammate Adams. His talent may actually be downgraded because he's been asked to play the more valued position. And that's always part of the equation when evaluating safeties. Byrd lasted until round 2 in part because HE was a CB in college You didn't comment again on Tre'Davious White until April, 28 2017 AFTER the selection I didn't get into the mocks and player rankings this year because I didn't do the work watching every player that others did so it's unfair to stack them on just the games I watched every week. But 3D White was my favorite cornerback in college football this year. This is where you say Tre'Davious White was your favorite cornerback in college... after the draft... when your last statement was made on December, 26 2016 and you said he might move to safety and was a RD2 or RD3 pick... no mention of him being your favorite player. These were literally the only two comments you made about Tre'Davious White for 1.5 years and now you're attempting to re-write your take. What I've outline above looks nothing like your quote below... you actually never said he was the top CB in the draft either.. you said he was your favorite cornerback in college football.. doesn't mean you believed he was the best... And I was probably the only person on TSW who had the relatively unheralded White as the top CB in the 2017 draft class (which notably had the MUCH heralded Marshon Lattimore). You didn't feel comfortable having much conviction until after the pick was made...

You make claims very often about how right you are… reference evidence… but never show it. If the evidence exists… why not show it? It just seems odd. You’re a smart guy… why not just back up your statements with evidence you say exists? I haven't really done much individual analysis but at a glance I thought a guy like Tre'Davious White might end up being a terrific corner and being a very good tackler he might translate to S one day and that long term package might be a second or third round investment versus the steep price for his teammate Adams. His talent may actually be downgraded because he's been asked to play the more valued position. And that's always part of the equation when evaluating safeties. Byrd lasted until round 2 in part because HE was a CB in college. This was the only reference I could find you making about Tre White between January 1, 2016 and April 27, 2017. You said he was worth a 2nd or 3rd rounder and that he may be a terrific corner but could also move to safety? Hardly the rock-solid endorsement of his abilities that you’re describing in your posts above. If other instances exists why not show me, rather than make me dig it up?

Can you cite the actual evidence of you saying prior to the 2017 NFL Draft that Tre White was the top CB in the draft class?

This! I don’t think people get this… release Beasley to save ~$6M and then have to find his replacement for less than $6M to make it worthwhile.

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This is scary as hell… for the rest of the NFL. This is Josh Allen with his offensive line playing below average. If our offensive line regularly plays at a slightly above average clip… woof.

There’s no reason to give him 10-20 touches a game. The 8-15 he’s getting right is just fine. He doesn’t make guys miss here and there… he makes a guy miss on like every touch. He’s averaging 5 yards a carry… that’s tied for 7th among RB. He needs to clean up his ball security… otherwise he’s just fine. There’s no reason to force feed him the ball when we have Josh Allen. 20ish touches/game between Breida, Moss and Singletary is appropriate. We just need the threat the run to have success on offense. EDIT: Singletary and Moss forced missed tackles on 21% and 20% of their touches last year. It puts them both in the top 20 in the NFL. For reference Derrick Henry and Zeke Elliot had 20% and 19%.

I don’t think we’re taking Taron Johnson off the field. Maybe a little more against run heavy teams… but we’ll play predominantly nickel.

I don’t necessarily disagree or agree with anything here… I’d just like to point out that it’s kind of telling we’re questioning game day in-actives and our punter? How many teams in the league have the luxury of wondering which depth defensive end should be active or how much their #4 WR should be playing? Or how many more snaps their 3rd string linebacker should get alongside their starters?

When things were going really bad with our run game, part of the reason we even gained yards at all was because Devin would make a guy miss in the backfield… he jukes a guy out on like every run. What games are you watching? I don’t think he’s an elite back by any means, but he’s not as horrible as everyone makes him sound.

Or we move on from it because it’s an anomaly for him over 1.5 seasons… Josh seemed to have no issues going to him yesterday after the drop.

It was reviewed. All turnovers are reviewed… by moving forward with the play the call either stood or was confirmed.

If Josh keeps playing well and accounting 80% of our offense I think he ends up winning MVP. Voters were skeptical last year that it was a fluke (and Rodgers balled out) if he finished with another high end season for the 2nd year in a row they’re going to lean a little more his way. Especially with how congested things are.

The ball definitely hit the ground and was rolling around when the player rolled over himself. You could only see this from the back angle - but I thought it was pretty blatant. All turnovers are reviewed and by giving the Jets the ball… they either decided there wasn’t enough evidence or that they should “just give it to them.” Diggs didn’t get 2 feet in. His left foot was down just before the ball hit his hands and he couldn’t manage to drag it after he got his right foot down. In real time during the broadcast I thought he got a knee or his ass down in bounds… but it was pretty clear all he got was 1 foot.

I was doing my best amateur lip reading but it looked like some sort of miscommunication. It seemed like Saleh believed that only the referees on the field had made the call on the field and the Sky Judge hadn’t buzzed in. If I read his lips right after he threw the flag he said “you told me it was your call!” Meaning the ref on the field made the call but obviously that wasn’t the case.

Yes - where is the evaluation?

Who was the idiot that wanted to waive Gabriel Davis last week and try and “sneak him on to the practice squad.” ?

So, we're not a real contender? Got it.

There’s a defender bearing down on him because he wasn’t blocked? Where was he supposed to go? It’s not a great angle, but he’s very clearly going to cut back into the defender in the backfield if he “hits the hole.”

I agree with everything - I don’t think the line is as bad as they are playing. It would obviously be nice to have Teller, but we don’t. In hindsight Ford was a bad pick. It’s not like the line has been totally neglected… they’ve put a lot of resources into it. Buy and large they were solid last year - the regression this year is concerning. I expected some but I didn’t expect them to become entirely incompetent. I don’t think you and I will ever see eye to eye on roster construction which is fine. I’m ok with the approach up to this point - although I’m going to agree that he needs to lean more towards your approach and go all in this off-season.

There are obviously things wrong with this team. There are things wrong all 32 teams in the NFL. There’s no issue in pointing those flaws out - it’s just the rambling about things that don’t even make sense. Most posts aren’t even rooted in fact… they’re rooted in emotion from a guy on his couch watching the broadcast view of the game. First and foremost the offensive line needs to be fixed. This gives Josh more time to make a play and also helps the run game enough to open up the pass game. It’s a technique/communication issue. Talent wise our lineman are not as bad as they’re playing. They’re an average offensive line when all things are going right - which is more than enough for Josh to make things happens. I’m a believer that adversity is a positive thing. Sure, it’s embarrassing to lose to the Jaguars but these setbacks should provide opportunities to create solutions that help avoid REAL let downs when it matters in the playoffs.

This is plenty to make him one of the best drafters in the NFL. It’s nothing to scoff at - wouldn’t you agree? I’m not saying that he’s perfect by any means… but the damn guy is the reigning Executive of the Year. He’s pretty good at what he does.

He was in the Bills backyard, yeah? The current regime has zero influence on what the past regime does. The Bills as an entity did not take Marpet but blaming the entire organization is wasteful when the leadership philosophies change with each regime.