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$4.5M/year over two years in free agency is extremely different than weighing the opportunity cost in RD1 of drafting a RB vs. a cost controlled player at a premium position. McKissic himself was a UDFA. He’s a pass catching specialist, so there isn’t a worry about him taking the ball out of Josh’s hands, he’s an extension of Josh as he is a pass catcher. Hall may be a similar profile, but it doesn’t change the issue of the value lost by selecting a RB early.

As long as it's before 4pm we're good. I have a Mock Draft competition and my submission is due then. 😂

The value of a RB on a RD1 deal vs a premier position on a RD1 deal. The fact that a RD1 pick has a 5th year option that’s extremely valuable and most RB don’t remain effective after 4-5 years. The fact that you said he’s a better version of McKissic who was an UDFA that signed for $3.5M/year. That in itself screams not worth the value of a RD1 pick lol

Running backs aren’t worth RD1 picks. They’re just not worth it. 25 is upper RD2 talent wise just about every year… Upper RD2 value is fine, but that 5th year option on a premier position is way more important.

That’s fine and probably true… but is a better McKissic a RD1 pick? I can’t get behind this and I’m a pretty big McBeane guy.

Their draft model undoubtedly knocks Lloyd down due to age.

Starter for Tennessee last year at RT. Graded out well as a run blocker. Had some struggles pass blocking. Nice little depth sign at this stage of free agency with some starting experience.

Isn’t she one of the Brent Musberger girls from FSU?

If you’re dizzy looking at our needs, fans of other NFL teams must have motion sickness this off-season. You know, considering the Bills are one of, if not the deepest team in the NFL.

Overpaid*

It’s just kind of what you do… got your marquee people on the horn and have them be a point of contact.

Data shows that teams who over or under perform in 1 score games end up trending back towards the middle. We should be roughly .500 in our 1 score games this year.

BUST. Only kidding. A player who is a wild card like this can never be a bust… it’s like a 7th round pick. They can’t be a bust.

Honestly for all the complaining our pass defense gets on this board, I’m shocked Miami fans aren’t losing their ***** after Howard and then Howard/Jones have had zero success stopping Josh Allen.

Supposedly brought up on NFL Live that we’ve inquired on Stephon Gilmore along with 2-3 other teams. I think it’s just further proof Beane has to be kicking the tires on all the DB left out there. I don’t think we sign him… but we were “in on” Peterson… we’re definitely waiting this market out.

If we’re looking at production on paper, they’re virtually identical. The rest of the the stuff you listed isn’t “production on paper.”

The Giants would be getting absolutely fleeced haha No chance they’d go for this.

I should say… I’m not REALLY an advocate and of this. Although I absolutely am in love with Sauce Gardner I’d actually like to move out of RD1 unless surprise guy falls to 25. I just don’t love the value there.

We could possibly get up to 7… framework would be somewhat similar to the Bills/Chiefs trade in 2017. For reference that was… 2017 1st (27th) 2017 3rd (91st) 2018 1st FOR 2017 1st (10th) If we did something like… 2022 1st (25th) 2022 3rd (89th) 2023 1st FOR 2022 1st (7th) You get pretty close on the trade chart… 1500 in exchange for 1200… not quite there yet. That’s where the veteran comes in… kick in a guy like Moss to make it work?

Rumor is the Giants want to move back. I don’t think we get all the way up to 7… but maybe they decide to move back twice to try an accumulated ammo for a QB in 2023. Say 7 to 15 and then 15 to 25? Completely spitballing.

Barkley is the practice squad arm… I don’t think anyone realistically believe he will be on the 53-man roster. He’s there to provide some form of competition for Keenum and is very well-liked in the locker room. There’s literally ZERO harm to bringing him in. It’s really not a big deal… at all…

Haha yes, there is a chasm of difference. That being, one of us has a clue what they're talking about. (Hint: It's not the guy from Right to Censor)

My direct tie to the 3 other Major Pro sports with very similar free agent market structures (NHL, NBA, MLB) was described by you as irrelevant to the discussion. Now you’re out here in the same breath talking about buying art, cars and collectibles?

That wasn’t the overall point, he was a young player on a “rookie deal” that decided to sign an extension FAR BELOW market value for the sake of long term security because the team that had him under control for 2-3 more years offered it to him and he wanted security. Players started leaving the agent… he allowed a player to value long term security and take a team friendly deal. The MLBPA hated that… players hated it… it’s the same across sports. Your interpretation of the point is somewhat correct.

I’m not talking about the process and how players view reaching free agency. Man… you’re tough. You don’t need to know a thing about NBA or MLB… it’s an anecdote. Really convenient you just ignored the part of my post that went into that. Good thing I can just copy and paste… Unless you’re a Josh Allen who is getting a record setting contract… the medium and low tier guys need other teams to drive up their prices. TLDR: Top end guys end up resetting the market or slotting in around a handful of guys making the most money at their position. These guys reset the market… everyone is happy. Agents, players and teams. Medium to low tier guys are all bunched together… it’s harder for players/agents/teams to determine their true value without the market. Those players don’t want to go without the presence of other parties bidding on their services. If these guys forgo free agency, they run the risk of contributing to deflating prices for themselves and future players.