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Athletic Training Staff This team manages the day-to-day health and medical needs of the players and staff within the facility. Nathan Breske – Head Athletic Trainer Numerous administrative duties Coordinates with doctors, surgeons, HR, and insurance Leads medical reviews ahead of the draft Flags any medical concerns from player reports (NFL, Combine, College) Denny Kellington – Associate Head Athletic Trainer Tabani Richards & Marissa Figueroa – Assistant Athletic Trainer Likely the most hands-on with players Responsible for treatments, rehab, and daily medical care Team Doctors These are practicing medical professionals who dedicate time to working with the team. Their primary responsibility is to assess flagged medical concerns and provide final determinations on player health. Leslie Bisson, MD – Head Team Physician (Leads the group) Thomas White, MD Andrew Cappuccino, MD Marc Fineberg, MD Mark Kim, DO Joseph Kowalski, MD William Wind, MD Medical Review & Decision Process The Athletic Training Staff collects and reviews player medicals from various sources (NFL, Combine, Colleges). Nathan Breske identifies and flags any concerns. The flagged cases are escalated to Dr. Bisson (Head Team Physician) for further review. The Team Doctors make the final decision on a player’s medical status. If a doctor is uncomfortable with a player’s medicals, the team typically defers to their judgment in decision-making. This structure ensures a collaborative process where athletic trainers handle daily player care, while team doctors have the final say on medical concerns, especially those impacting roster decisions.

Of course I looked. The roster wasn't any better in 2010 with Pat Shurmur calling the plays and Bradford won ROY. Roster was similar in 2011, and he absolutely sucked under McDaniels. Then he magically returned to a similar level of play with Brian Schottenheimer calling the plays in 2012 and was off to a torrid start with Schottenheimer in 2013 as well. He was throwing to Amendola, Lloyd and Gibson then. If you want to assert that Amendola was the difference between McDaniels having success with Bradford or not, go for it... He's been a Head Coach twice and was fired before even completing his second season, BOTH TIMES. He was also not renewed after 1 season in St. Louis. There's clearly a pattern here - he has been a disaster without Belichick. I'm not saying he's a bumbling fool, just that he has not proven to be good without Belichick. "I don't think McDaniels is a great HC but he did go to the play offs with Tim Tebow." Did you just take a look at the roster ... by chance? 🤣🤣🤣 He drafted Tim Tebow and then couldn't figure out how to use him, he never got run as the starter with McDaniels. McDaniels started his Broncos career 6-0 and then proceeded to go 5 - 17 and then followed that up with a Raiders tenure where he went 9 - 16. Even though you're not saying he's great, based on his track record, it's criminal you even used "great" and "head coach" in the same sentence when referencing McDaniels. Let's not forget his absolute clown show backing out of Indianapolis job in the 11th hour and after having already hired staff there.

Terrible in Denver and Las Vegas running his own show and calling plays. Terrible OC in St. Louis running the offense for a defensive head coach in Steve Spagnuolo. He was hired to help the reigning 2010 AP Offensive Rookie of the Year take a leap forward. Sam Bradford was on pace to put up BY FAR the worst season of his career before it was cut short due to injury after 10 games. Sam Bradford (2011) 53.5% Completion 216 Yards/Game 1.7% TD 1.7% INT Sam Bradford (Career) 62.5% Completion 234.3 Yards/Game 3.5% TD 2.1% INT He's been nothing but atrocious when he's not working under Belichick.

No, it shouldn't. That's why it doesn't you ***** - it's clearly ***** outlined. TOT_NETDrAV is the AV that a team has benefitted from directly while the player is on their team, as compared to players and teams in their draft class. Please just change your username to Willful_Ignorance and crawl back into whatever hole you came from.

It’s impressive how much pride you take in being willfully ignorant. The Pro Bowl is part of the formula, not the sole component. Much different than you and others who use Pro Bowl nods (or the lack thereof) as the sole measure of a player's worth.

Oh boy, you’re not even good at being a troll. Can you try and contribute something of value to this forum?

It’s not just adding up the raw AV numbers for each player. There is a weight associated with each round and rewards you for over performing or under performing with your selection in the round compared to your peers. This illustrates it pretty well… Damar Hamlin provides some positive value, as expected from a starter on a 12–13 win team, but it's not substantial. In the same draft, Rousseau and Spencer Brown add significant value, with Brown contributing heavily. However, Hamlin’s value is largely offset by the lack of contributions from other picks like Boogie Basham, Tommy Doyle, Marquez Stevenson, Rachad Wildgoose, and Jack Anderson. As a result, the bulk of the 2021 draft class value for Buffalo comes from Rousseau and Brown, who rank 9th in the class—well behind the top 5 teams (DET, KAN, DEN, PHI, and HOU).

Copy and paste from another thread because it’s just clowns regurgitating the same *****, so maybe I should too: PRO BOWL?! You're seriously citing the PRO BOWL? Russell Wilson was named to the Pro Bowl this year - what a credible way to evaluate his performance. You're flat-out wrong about Buffalo. I can name players too! CB Taron Johnson—All-Pro—taken in the 4th round in 2019. "D captain Nick Bolton"? How about D captain Terrel Bernard, whom Buffalo found in the 3rd round in 2022. Spencer Brown (3rd round), James Cook (2nd round) and Christian Benford (6th round). Should I continue? Because I can. Now, let's not even start on Trey Smith. He was a consensus top-3 round talent, but teams took him off their boards due to medical concerns. Want to tell me how medical evaluations work in pro sports? Be my guest—I promise one of us actually knows, and the other doesn’t. You want to call Greg Rousseau a reach at 30? Cool. What a wild way to evaluate someone who was a top-10 edge rusher in 2024. Speaking of "reaches," how’s Kingsley Suamataia doing? Didn’t he get benched for three different LT options? What’s Felix Anudike-Uzomah up to? His first two seasons are worse than Boogie Basham’s. But go ahead, hype up drafting Skyy Moore and Clyde Edwards-Helaire while you're at it. Fans like me can think rationally instead of spinning narratives to cope with not being Kansas City. Newsflash: I want to win too. I actually agree—good is the enemy of great. But that’s not the issue here. The real conversation? All-Time is the enemy of great. That’s the part you just can’t comprehend.

Thanks for clarifying what you meant by "stopping KC." "Stopping" is often used to mean hindering or preventing progress, like not letting them advance past the Bills. But of course, anyone who speaks English totally got it, right? 😅

Haha, who stops KC "all the time actually" ? Cincinnati, Tampa and New England 1x each? Or are you going to reference regular season? That will be fun...

PRO BOWL?! You're seriously citing the PRO BOWL? Russell Wilson was named to the Pro Bowl this year - what a credible way to evaluate his performance. You're flat-out wrong about Buffalo. I can name players too! CB Taron Johnson—All-Pro—taken in the 4th round in 2019. "D captain Nick Bolton"? How about D captain Terrel Bernard, whom Buffalo found in the 3rd round in 2022. Spencer Brown (3rd round), James Cook (2nd round) and Christian Benford (6th round). Should I continue? Because I can. Now, let's not even start on Trey Smith. He was a consensus top-3 round talent, but teams took him off their boards due to medical concerns. Want to tell me how medical evaluations work in pro sports? Be my guest—I promise one of us actually knows, and the other doesn’t. You want to call Greg Rousseau a reach at 30? Cool. What a wild way to evaluate someone who was a top-10 edge rusher in 2024. Speaking of "reaches," how’s Kingsley Suamataia doing? Didn’t he get benched for three different LT options? What’s Felix Anudike-Uzomah up to? His first two seasons are worse than Boogie Basham’s. But go ahead, hype up drafting Skyy Moore and Clyde Edwards-Helaire while you're at it. Fans like me can think rationally instead of spinning narratives to cope with not being Kansas City. Newsflash: I want to win too. I actually agree—good is the enemy of great. But that’s not the issue here. The real conversation? All-Time is the enemy of great. That’s the part you just can’t comprehend.

Save it, Ryan. So do the other ***** 31 teams. Chiefs "elite" players drafted outside of Mahomes are Kelce (2013) and Jones (2016) - Veach wasn't even the ***** GM for those drafts. Adjustments need to be made, and have been made in each subsequent season since McDermott and Beane have been here. I'm sorry they happen to exist during what is going to be the greatest dynasty in NFL history. McBeane are really ***** good, and KC is All-Time great. In the history of the league, really ***** good gets it done in every other era.

Jesus Christ, there are 65 replies in this thread and 1/3 of them are the same 3 ***** miserable people whining like children.

Cris Collinsworth, when did you get here?

We didn’t have Spencer Brown playing Week 11. Spencer Brown playing this week is a bigger swing than Taylor Rapp being out.

They're incredibly strong, but they have had some absolute duds this year against some not so good teams. (H) Lost to Atlanta 22-21 in Week 2 (R) Beat New Orleans 15-12 in Week 3 (Didn't score until Q4) (H) Beat Cleveland 20-16 in Week 6 (Tied 13-13 in Q4) (H) Beat Jacksonville 28-23 in Week 9 (1 score game pretty much all game and in Q4) (R) Beat Carolina 22-16 in Week 14 (Trailed in Q4) Those teams have a combined record of 25-60. The Eagles averaged 20.8 PPG and allowed 17.8 PPG - average margin of victory was 3 points. Also, remember that they blew a 2 score lead by giving up 22 points in the 4th quarter against Washington this year.

WR Keon Coleman CB Kaiir Elam LB Edefuan Ulofoshio OL Will Clapp OL Spencer Brown TE Dalton Kincaid Three pretty big inactives on that list... none bigger than Spencer Brown. Although Van Demark held his own at RT.

Milano was subbed out for a dime look. He was not hurt.

Yeah, if you ignore the two terrible turnovers 😂

Oh, so what do you evaluate things based off of? Forgive me that I forgot you sit and watch the Rams All-22 footage every week 😂

Yep, definitely doesn’t have anything to do with the fact that Buffalo rotates their defensive lineman more than Los Angeles… definitely not. Rousseau has the highest snap count (66%) and Epenesa is 2nd (55%) the Rams have 3 guys over 70% and the 4th highest is 60%.

Illuminating the fact people undervalue Bills players and overvalue players on other teams. He was a solid player for Los Angeles, he didn’t do anything more impressive than Epenesa (who was a relative bargain as an FA) and was significantly less effective than a guy like Rousseau. Age is incredibly important, he came into the league in his prime. You’re expecting continued ascension because he’s a rookie, but he’s closer to a finished product than not. With the benefit of hindsight you were willing to trade up into the Top 20 for a player less productive than Epenesa and Rousseau, while ignoring the fact that there’s suppressed projection due to age and maxed out physicality? Subjective stats? Dude played 200 more snaps and had 1.5 fewer sacks lmao

Verse 17 Games 834 Snaps 4.5 Sacks 11 TFL 18 QB Hits Epenesa 17 Games 612 Snaps 6 Sacks 8 TFL 11 QB Hits

He is 24 years old, the same age as Greg Rousseau. He’s closer to a finished product than not.

A guy who is less productive than AJ Epenesa on a per snap basis?