Mark92

Well if you look at the #10 pick we gave to KC for the #27 and the following years 1st in 2017 then it may not be quite enough. I would do #9 for #24, #27 and a 2nd rounder. Turn 1 top ten pick into 3 probable starters. Yep.

Glad intelligent wasn't your aim.

Houston was not a crushing. The Peterman got crushed. Again even though Allen wasn't playing well there was a good chance they come out of Houston with a Win if he doesn't go down. All I'm saying is the Bills are in a much better place, financially and with player development then they were to start the 2018. I don't see the point in blaming the front office for this season until they are done building the roster back up. I am optimistic as I would hope most Bills fans would be.

How can you say they wouldn't have? This whole thread is what ifs.

Do you remember the Monday night game at the Ralph? Josh Allen would have won that game with the way Bills D played. Point is that this team is much closer to compeating for a playoff spot than you give them credit for.

They also could have easily swept the Dolphins and Jets. This team was pretty decent towards the end of the year. That's saying something with that roster. It's hope for next year.

In what world is 50 million DEAD money NOT cap hell? I realize they did it to themselves but they did it to get it over quick. Which they did.

? Anybody can play with numbers to prove their point. Car salesmen do it for a living. The bills were in cap HELL when Beane took over. He decided to strip the team down to get out of it faster....... hence 2018. Believe what you will and move numbers around to prove to yourself that Beane is incompetent while the rest of us will enjoy the fruits of his labor this off-season. My guess is that you'll be doing the same next off-season.

He did all of this with little to no money! You need to feild a team so he spent what they had in places of absolute need. Beane has not had a chance to show off his gm skills yet. Even though behind the scene he is killing it. $70 million in DEAD money GONE!!!! THATS CRAZY. Let's judge Bean in one years time. What GM wouldn't love $88 million and the #9 pick?

It's OFFICIAL! Stop with this nonsense. The Bills won the tie breaker with a better opponent record. No coin flip no nothing. Many websites have it wrong because the NFL posted the draft order before last night's game that caused the tie and tie breaker situation. Done deal.

They're wrong. The strength of schedule became a tie after last night's game. Buffalo gets the tie breaker with opponets win loss record.

Right now it looks like 6th. But I'll take 9th or 10th with a going away Win for Williams and Josh Freaking Allens 300 yd 5 TD game.

Actually YES we do have a top 10 pick. We are in 9th right now. A Denver win and we clinch 9th. Denver loses then it all depends on Cleveland. Basically it's 9th or 10th. Root for Denver and Cleveland to win. Either gets us 9th.

The wide receivers can't get open at all. That's why. End of story.

I honestly say F#$K this season. Josh Allen can't learn ***** with this Offense. I am a huge Bills fan but son of a B word this offense is bad and the QB situation awful.

I am in no way saying they won't be good or great. All I am saying is that this was supposed to be a really good class and because of how great a few rookie QBs have looked in the last few years I think we expected them all to have a bigger impact. Not happening.

I get your point but when the so called best QB of the group in Darnold tosses 4 picks in week 9. It's a concern.

Did we over evaluate these guys? There have been quiet a few good rookie QB's in the past 3-4 years I am starting to think that maybe the whole NFL reached on the 2018 class. I thought for sure this was a special class and who knows maybe it still will be but Baker seems to be the most consistent right now. Do I hope and pray that Allen turns into the QB he has the talent to become? Of course I do. But the second guesses on him and all of them are there right now.

"Yup"

Gruden is cleaning house and is going to rebuild with "HIS" guys.

You can't have it both ways. You either get a Defensive coach who can or can't build a good defense. Or..... You get an offensive coach who can or can't build a good offense. McDermott has PROVEN he can build a good defense. The offense part is all about the coordinator, coaches he brings in and players Beane brings in. You either score 40 points a game with a great offense or you don't allow 20 points a game with a great defense. It would be great to have both but who does that?

The best hope obviously is that we get the #1 and Hebert come out. If so the Bills could get a "Kings Ransom" for the pick. Remember all the talk about the Giants wanting our whole draft to move up #2 this year? I say stick it to them. ?

What strikes me about this is that there are definitely better QBs available to not only backup but start. The Bills don't want the offense to get better they are tanking without tanking.

Honestly I think if the Bills get a shot at Bosa they will crap their pants. Yes we all know they don't "need" him and a stud WR or OL would be wise but I think McDermott is to much of a D coach and would love to round out his D with him and a CB in Free Agency.

I feel bad for Peterman. He can not play QB and shouldn't be out there but it's on the Bills for putting him out there knowing he is going to fail..