CamboBill

Meh, Tony Sparano became the wildcat guru in that era with Ronnie Brown. Some novelty plays. Hardly redefined the game lol. After that it was the Pistol offense that was going to take over. A lot of teams use it but in very small percentages.

Not a bad idea. Cooper to me is sort of a watkins 2.0 -- and I don't mean that in a good way. Worth a roll of the dice though if we could get him for Lawson or Bejamin + a mid rounder. He has the speed and size but seems like a poor route runner to me.

Yea --- I just hope Allen does not wind up in the trash heap as a broken down QB after his rookie year. Can he really survive 6 to 7 sacks a game -- physically and mentally. No Mentor, No Real Backup to take pressure off, no line, no wr, no proper game planning. A recipe for disaster Not sure what qualifies as "öld" here. i am old enough to know that nfl history tends to run in cycles more than linearly so we can still learn a lot from the past. Avoid believing in fads ---- it was just a few years ago the wildcat was going to redefine how the game was played hahaha

B b b but --- we needed that 3.5 Million so we could get Corey Coleman for a week or 2

Not defending our WR, but I think Dallas might be worse now. Read someplace Cowboy fans wondering if they could get Benjamin on the cheap lol

we should bring reid in to be a qb whisperer ........ for peterman

The definition of mediocrity Sure --- you spot start him and pull him when gets into game situations where he is being overwhelmed. Protecting your investment is not putting him on a pedestal. It is about managing the player's learning curve as well as fan expectations.

Not sure I want to turn this into a referendum on whether Allen was the right pick or not. Personally I was happy enough with it --- they swung for the fences. You do make a fair point about Rosen's performance yesterday. His stats were lackluster but he probably lost over 100 yards passing due to WR drops yesterday. It looked like Arizona WRs were copying Bills WRs yesterday. FWIW, I always thought that Rosen was the most NFL ready of the QB prospects this year (even more than Darnold). My questions were more about his durability and upside, given his relatively limited athleticism and small frame. Allen has loads more upside -- admittedly the bust factor is higher too. Anyway, Allen is our guy now, and I simply want .to see him competently developed. A lot of the problems yesterday were directly on Josh, but where were the game plan adjustments? Where is there another competent QB on the roster to help out when things go totally off the rails? This is a wasted year so i don't really care about W-L that much. I can even live with yesterday's debacle, but what if this becomes a regular thing. Our top QB prospect since Kelly gets trashed physically and confidence wise, and our rather fickle fan base turns on him or writes him off. So what good is our wasted year? Competent organization plan for and manage these contingencies. Not seeing it with the Bills yet.

It was the best of times, it was the worst of times ... (A Tale of Two Weeks). FWIW, I am still on the Josh Allen band wagon, despite how lost he looked out there today @ GB. Pettine did a fantastic job generating coverage pressure and sacks, while also taking away Allen's running game. Allen was clueless to adjust -- which is expected for a rookie as raw as he was. Where was DaBoll with any meaningful half time adjustments? I know we got down early, but where was the running game after Q!? Anyway, I am commenting on this thread, because I am so disgusted by the lack of contingency planning on the Bills. Bad games from rookie QBs are to be expected, but Allen needed to be pulled today as he was clearly in over his head. Not only was his play awful, but he was getting killed by the Pass Rush out there ---- to the point I was generally concerned about injury. By the 4th quarter, i had reached the point where I was hoping GB would extend their drives so that Allen would not be forced out there to get steam rolled yet again. Allen belonged on the sidelines, preferably with a vet mentor seeing him through his 1st disastrous day as a pro. Unfortunately, inept Bills management has us boxed in (Is yanking him for Peterman really an option?). On the bright side none of the rookie QBs really shined today. Even Mayfield (who put up big numbers) made some incredibly stupid turnovers. This is the nature of rookie QBs. I will say it again : GET A VET QB/MENTOR IN ASAP Don't leave Allen floundering like a caught fish in a boat. When things get twisted in any certain game, get him out before he gets hurt or has his confidence totally trashed. I think the kid will eventually "get it"" .... but until he does he needs a co-driver to get him out of the nastier conditions.

Well --- I will date myself with this --- but since the vikings are the big bad purple team, i am going with this for his more famous leap: "Purple Haze all in my Brain" Lately things just dom't seem the same Acting Funny and I don't know why Excuse me (Mr Barr) While I Kiss the sky""

Give Murphy a better look too --- he has not looked all that bad

Speaking of the opposite of a quitter. Shady is a gamer and deserves all respect.

Nothing wrong with deciding ""Ït's time"" --- but choosing to do so mid-game is about as lame as it gets.

I tend to agree with you but I think there are multiple issues here. 1) The biggest is that i think he is really out of position as an MLB expected to stop the run in a 4-3. To me he looks a lot better as a "twitchy" athlete who could help in the pass rush and still be rangy enough to disrupt in coverage and also in pursuit. A classic "thumper"with great ball instincts to diagnose and attack the ball carrier he is not. He seems more of an OLB to me. 2) He is being force fed a lot in terms of responsibilities (diagnosing and communicating defensive adjustments). That is hard enough as a rookie and even more hard when your natural instincts and strengths are not well matched with what you are being expected to do on the field in your current role. 3) The loss of Preston Brown (who took a home town discount in Cincinnati) necessitated a new MLB --- we had nobody. Perhaps this situation will benefit him long term, but right now he is undergoing the same learning process Allen is, and is not being schemed to play to his natural strengths. I still think the kid is a unique talent, but right now is a bit "square peg, round hole". I wonder if the Bills will be better off moving hims outside next year and getting a more instinctive "traditional"MLB to play inside.

I feel sad for supposedly knowledgeable fans to be screaming for Frazier''s head now. Frazier is one of the best secondary coaches in the NFL and I think quite likely contributed to T White's fast development as well as the excellent play of Hyde and Poyer since they joined. We are fortunate to have him. Play calling is a different matter. Coaches develop tendencies just as players do, which can be exploited. In Frazier's case it is slightly worse because he comes from a more conservative (Predictable) Tampa 2 Background. He needed to change things up and in this case MacD did it for him. This does not mean Frazier is a bum, any more than saying Andy Reid is a bum because he fell into a play calling rut and decided to delegate play calling.