YodaMan79

How is this game not on CBS in Philadelphia suburbs? 🤬

Good for him that he can still get paid. But if you've watched him over the past 3-4 years, he doesn't stay in games. He's shuffling in and out constantly with minor nagging injuries. He's not a real option that can be counted on to contribute.

Besides a couple of big runs from Hall, the D played well. Edmunds is not the guy that makes or breaks that unit. Hell of an athlete, but a reactive player, with no instinct. They had to let him go.

Interesting observation. It looks more like he's attending the Carson Wentz school of game management and QB play. Last night looked eerily similar to Carson Wentz of 2021, except there was no Hurts drafted in the 2nd round to mess with this psyche. I want to criticize a number of regular suspects, but JA was so bad. Let's hope his ego behind the scenes isn't a hindrance to where this team can go. Josh is putting players/coaches jobs on the line with his play. As much I question the OC, or McClappy, JA looks so off script it's hard to accurately assess who's responsible for what. Commercials, Hollywood girlfriend, questions about his dedication/commitment...should have all of us worried. He's sheltered in western New York. If JA was in a major market, he would have had to answer some tough questions through last year. My biggest fear of 13 seconds being the peak of this team is looking more likely.

That too. Lane Johnson and Peters seemed like they were getting head start on passing plays a majority of the time.

It's crazy what the officials allowed on the OL. During his last years with the Eagles, Jason Peters seemed to perfect the technique of being constantly Offside. It appears his peers have picked up on what officials let him get away with in the twilight of his career and have exploited it. You can see this in almost every game now. It's a copy cat league, and everyone is picking up on what the Eagles do. It's not a fast start, they're Offside a lot, no matter what SI says: https://www.si.com/nfl/2023/02/07/the-lane-johnson-controversy

Watch him sign with the Eagles PS and they develop him into a starting RT when Lane Johnson starts to decline. I think a good coaching staff could turn him into a NFL player. I say it's worth a shot on kicking the tires. Use the winning culture get guys like this into the program and hopefully develop into something.

From an Eagles focused reporter giving a breakdown on all 90 guys on the roster: LB Ben VanSumeren: The UDFA linebacker had a million tackles against the Colts — OK, 17 — but he’s still a raw player. He’s relatively new to the linebacker position and it’s obvious. But he has some potential as a future special teams contributor. I’d keep him on the practice squad.

The front office should also be looking at who the Eagles release on their OL, and try to stash on the PS. Look at what Jeff Stoutland has done with developing talent. A prime example is Fred Johnson, they likely found another hidden gem to develop. With the Eagles front office and scouting staff, the Bills should be looking to get OL help starting there. They have the best OL coaching staff in the league, by a mile. 26 years old, 6'-7", 330 lbs, and they found this guy on the waiver wire. "But this is a typical Howie Roseman move. Find a guy on the scrap heap, send him to study at Stoutland U and find yourself a player." This is what consistent contenders do, find developmental depth at a controlled cost. I hope the Bills have some stories like this guy coming out of camp moving forward. https://www.nbcsportsphiladelphia.com/nfl/philadelphia-eagles/how-eagles-fred-johnson-came-out-of-nowhere-to-earn-roster-spot-and-new-contract/533676/

Why would the FO extend a 30+ year old WR who hasn't produced at an elite level in two years? Very rarely in football does a player return to peak form 2-3 years after the fact. This Hopkins and OBJ talk is fantasy football banter from 2018.

Exactly. Oliver has very little value. Reminds me of when a number of clueless posters thought McCoy could be traded and he'd return a second round pick.

I've always been a fan of Sutton. He'd be a nice compliment on the other side of Diggs.

You lost me at Pro Bowl. It hasn't meant anything since the 90s. It's objectively worse than the baseball All-Star game. I think his point about Spiller, and instincts is spot on. The egos on these coaching staffs see players with "potential" and think they can always get more. Fletcher came from D3 and developed into a 2nd team All-Pro. Edmunds plays much slower than his physical capabilities. Another team can try and get him to reach his "potential." After all, he's only 20. 1/4 of the leagues players could claim a Pro-Bowl designation last year (yes..I know it's hyperbole): https://www.pro-football-reference.com/years/2022/probowl.htm 111 players carried a PB designation last year. We talk about the "Hall of Very Good", this put that to shame.

I hear you MrEpsYtown. My thinking is, the OL coaching under Jeff Stoutland is so good compared to the rest of league, maybe this kid picked up something? Wishful thinking, possibly? But you have to hit on some unpolished gems to round-out an upper tier roster . If they hit on two studs lineman this draft, it gives them a lot of options. Yes, Hardy looked like a player with high upside in 21, as well. They both averaged over 15 YPC. ***Edit: Oh my! Spotrac has his estimated per-year value at 8.5 million. Not sure how they calculate that, but that puts him out of the question. I love these more realistic threads. When you look at spotrac, it becomes abundantly clear the contenders get a lot of production from sub $3 million dollar players on the roster.

Dillard was relegated to backup guard duty, maybe the ability to compete for T spot and the soft media in WNY would be attractive. From an outside perspective, the shot of a starting role anywhere (G/T) should hold merit. Kid is kind of sensitive. He was crying on the field during his first training camp. Have the coaches determine who's the better LT in OTAs and camp. The way this line played, no one deserves to be penciled in as a starter at any position.

Not only would I take Fletcher with the Bills, but I'd also take the version of him that was with team I shall not name, for fear being cancelled. He was a very impressive sideline to sideline player. Amazing that he came from D3. Edit: I had no idea he was a second team all-pro twice in his later years. Also, looking at his FF, INTs and PD...he made impactful plays, with an occasional sack.

I hear you. I'm not up to speed on the financials, is starting G money on par with a backup tackle? With his limited field time since 19, would any team really put up starting T money? Problem is, when Lane Johnson was hurt for an extended period of time a couple of years ago, they tried him at RT. He was atrocious on that side of the ball. His footwork, hands, everything was off. He's not a versatile OL, maybe that could work in the Bills favor?

I'd like to see what Andre Dillard would look like at LG. He would have been the starting LT for the Eagles if not for Jordan Mailata turning into one of the best LTs in the game out of nowhere. Not a lot of tape on him, but possibly if given the opportunity it could be his time to shine. Only down side is, he has trouble playing on the right side. He was a first round pick that was hurt his first year and never made it back onto the field. Also, add Marquez Callaway. He's a RFA for the cash strapped Saints. Tender a low round pick for his services. He looked like a up and coming player in 2021. Good size, speed and low risk, high reward.

This will be as successful as Jimmy Rollins was, when trying to teach Michael Vick on how to properly slide.

I don't want to kick the can down the road with restructures. This is where GMs earn their money, making the hard decisions. 1. Do not resign/cut the feel good special team guys. Nothing above vet minimum contracts for these type of players, they're a luxury they can't afford. There are young and hungry guys that can cover punts and the rare kick return, that don't cost anywhere near what SN (1 million dead cap, how?!) and TM cost. Coaches have to develop these type of contributors. 2. You have to let Edmunds and Poyer walk. A competent Dline makes everyone behind them look better. This is the only option for true roster flexibility. Letting them go would get you compensatory picks in 24, right? The Raven's let CJ Mosley go, he wasn't difference maker for them. Edmunds isn't for the Bills, either. 3. You have to get lucky and find the next FA like Poyer was. They are out there. A guy like KYZIR WHITE, the Eagles saw something in him and he's been very solid. Howie Roseman leaves no stone unturned. He wasn't a big name/money addition, but has played really well for them. These former mid-round picks coming up on 4-5 years in the league that have shown promise deserve a shot. A mix of these guys and a couple solid draft finds can turn a struggling unit around pretty quick. 4. RFA on teams that are up against it. I hate to point out the Eagles again, but think Chauncey Gardner Johnson. He was acquired for 5th and 6th round picks. This is where flexibility with money is key. Is this where we're at with EO? We're likely too bias to have clear vision here. We see his deficiencies, who's going to give anything of real value for him? 5. Who are skill position players available coming off an unlucky injury or scheme change, that could have a bounce back year? Think of guys like McKinnon or a WR equivalent. A little luck and good scouting could keep us on the up and up.

Don't sell yourself short. They're normal people who most likely would struggle to do what you do for a living. It's a game. Once you understand the rules, matchups and concepts, it's not brain surgery. In the not for long league, I'd say the emperor is missing his clothes more often than not. Just look at the turnover and how some of these guys handle thoughtful questions from the media.

Josh is paid as a top tier QB. He's not being slammed. He lead the league in TOs, he deserves some criticism.

Just remember to number of posters on here, it's KDs fault Josh often refused to take the high % easy yards. Oh, and put the D in rough spot deep in the zone time over time. You don't have to have the all 22 film to see a couple of guys open in the flat or underneath.

Serious question. When these coaches are being evaluated, are they the one's held accountable for bad decisions players make/made in the games? I have a feeling the numbers would look much more favorable from an offense standpoint if 1/2 - 1/4 of JAs turnovers didn't happen. A number of those turnovers didn't look scheme related, just bad decisions. I wasn't looking at the all 22, but I often times saw 1-2 open targets underneath for a high % gain. I'm sure his bad decisions in the red zone contributed to the offense looking stagnant on paper.

A year after .13 and I'm still in that state of mind. My worst fears are being realized. I think last year was their time to seal the deal, and they are now chasing it on the decline.