The Red King

It looked, in a way, like Brady and NE. Take what the D gives you, nickel and dime your way down the field, and when the D finally cracks and a reciever is open deep, torch them. We've been on the receiving end of that way too many years now.

Just hope by the time Allen comes in we're not 0-3 and end up missing the playoffs by a game. I understand the idea of letting him sit, but he's farther ahead then anyone thought, and Peterman's arm strength (or lack thereof) is going to be an issue. Aggressive secondaries are going to start jumping his routes during the regular season like they were in a bounce house. He's a solid backup, but I'm not ready to write-off this season (or a good chunk of it) just to sit Allen. Not anymore, not after what the kid's shown. I trust the process, but if Peterman starts it's going to be real tough to swallow. And if he does poorly, fans will be screaming for blood (and Allen).

What others? Seriously, watch the clip posted earlier and tell me what other throws were bad.

Peterman is a far cry from Bledsoe and Farve.

The CFL allows penalties to be reviewable. After watching that terrible call, I think it's time the NFL adopt it. Good lord, first time I've seen that involving a QB not called Brady...

"You went full analytics. Never go full analytics!" ?

Technically, Buffalo is the only NY team, but I digress. ? There is a good point there, part of the narritive is that the Bills, long-time losers, drafted him. A hard-luck team uses a high pick on a kid who looks like a statistical mess. Sounds like a Cleveland move, and so the media spins it that way. Had NE drafted Allen the narrative would be completely different, as Bellie gets the next possible GOAT with raw talent and just a small handful of flaws that a brilliant coach like him could fix. The narrative of each preseason game would be how amazing Allen is, and how quickly Bellie is molding him into a god. Also remember, the media is looking for clicks. With all these QBs drafted, they need to strongly differentiate between them. Otherwise they risk looking like they're copy/pasting. Allen is on the Bills, and got the storyline "High-risk, likely bust", to separate him from the others.

It's about culture. The Browns are 1-31, coming off 0-16. Tyrod will not make the big plays to win games, but will not make the mistakes. As with us, TT will keep the Browns in a number of games. The Browns need that consistancy right now. They need to win a few games, get the monkey off their back, then they can bring Mayfield in. Look at it this way, if Cleveland crash and burns with TT against a tough schedule, he is a sacrificial lamb. Mayfield is then brought in against easier teams and the fans forgive all. If Mayfield starts and the Browns struggle, talk will persist about the Browns still being losers, and Mayfield will come under fire. This gets even worse if other QBs taken in this draft are doing well. All kinds of way too early talk about if Mayfield is a bust, if Cleveland took the wrong QB, etc. Makes sense to start Tyrod, believe it or not...

I think the plan has been, see what the kid can do. Put him out with the 3rd string, played well enough for a shot with the 2nd team...played well enough for a shot with the 1s. Peterman is, at this point, a known commodity. I don't think Allen is a lock for week 1 starter yet, but I think he starts vs Cinci, as a bit of a final exam...and his chance to win the week one start. McD has been watching and waiting for him to stumble, for him to be overwhelmed, for him to show he isn't ready. Instead, he's shown poise and game presence I'm stunned to see in a rookie. I know it's preseason, but just compare Allen in the two-minute drill compared to what we had last season. Allen is further ahead then planned, exceeding expectations. I think he gets the start vs. Cinci, with a chance to win the regular season starting job.

The question now is...would starting Allen constitute a signifigant drop-off? If the competition is even remotely close, start the kid and get him his experience.

I like the throw. We know he can make the throw. But what impressed me was the *poise* there. Didn't look like a rook...

Allen in making a strong case here...

Stuck with radio...which just cut out. But damn, sounds like Allen's got some poise to go with that cannon!

To hide that this was once a completely different thread. Four pages in the OP completely changed the title and original post in an effort to hide/bury it.

Again, this was created in response to another thread, where the OP maintained it was a 50/50 split. That thread has, after four pages, had it's title and original post changed to cover that fact. It's linked above.

People love me at parties, tend to leave them laughing hard. Just, my sense of humor doesn't involve trolling. And can't rent me, my engine has a bad head gasket, wouldn't survive the commute. ?

I'm honestly stunned its not changed back yet. Mods are usually on top of things like this.

Oh, it was just to troll the members here, that's why the OP changed the title and original post after it got to four pages, trying to bury/hide it.

I linked the original thread in an earlier reply. The OP on that thread changed the title and wiped out their original post to try and destroy all evidence it existed. Original thread is here: Page two has the 50/50 claim.

It was in response to another poll, where the poster noted people were divided 50/50. That poster has since renamed that thread to Sam Darnold Dazzles in Debut

So, the OP changes the original post and title to hide what happened? ?

Wild Card, Buf @ Jax. Jax won 10-3. ...yep, it's over.

In CuddyDark's mind it's fact because the victim said so. See my prior post on white knight syndrome.

The playoff drought is over. The "drought of not making the playoffs without the assistance of other teams" or "the drought of not being a dominant team" remain. OP needs to quantify which drought.

If you claim the drought isn't over, how do you define droughf? Bills played a 17th game. Was called a playoff game, is on record as a playoff game. ...some people are never happy...