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It was a trade in some official mock draft that guys were live tweeting.

If Darnold is #1, just take him.

How about the Browns turning down Ditka's trade even though they were an expansion team in need of tons of help.

Hue Jackson all but said the 1st pick is a QB. They aren't trying to convince people they aren't taking a QB.

That's not how it works though. The 4th year option is based on the 10 highest salaries at your position, not by draft slot. The QB would garner a ton of money but I doubt Barkley would be $20 million. Either way, that 4 years of great play to figure it out.

Cleveland has a 0% chance of drafting Nelson with Bitonio and Zeitler. It'll be Barkley or Chubb (whoever falls) or trade down.

Having Taylor changes absolutely nothing about pick 1.

Rumor basically the same principle as has been tossed around. Buffalo gets 1. NY Giants get 4, 22, and a 5th. Cleveland gets 2, 12, 53, 65, 2019 1st, and possibly 56.

It took 3 2nds for the Jets to go from 6 to 3 but it only costs a 3rd to go from 6 to 4?

2 2nds this year and a 2nd next year.

Right, one was for a quarterback and one wasn't. There are premiums paid when trading up for a QB.

From 15? Is it 3 drafts worth of picks? David Johnson and Patrick Peterson?

Cleveland isn't desperate for a franchise QB?

I actually really like Mike White. If he drops to mid 3rd or the 4th, and I want Cleveland to grab him a la Kirk Cousins after Darnold at 1.

When I said 3 1sts, I was meaning if Cleveland moves down from 1 and 4, or the 1st pick outright. I'd try to trade 12 and 53 to get back to 6 or 7 for Barkley, Chubb, or even Ward.

I think the #4 would depend on the trade structure. It could be 12, 53, and a 2019 1st. It won't be 3 1sts though.

This board thinks trading to 1 is a possibility, and some think it would only cost 12, 22, 53, and a 2nd next year.

They generally downgrade a Pick the following year by 1 round. A 1st in 19 in worth a 2nd in 18.

I agree it's not enough, but who knows. I'd trade 35 and keep next year's 1st

You are crazy. I'll take Garrett and Chubb for 5 years and deal with contracts then. Bookend franchise pass rushers for 5 years is a great problem to have. No one trades much for a 30 year old RB, let alone a top 4 pick.

It would take more than a 1st next year a McCoy for #4. McCoy is a soon to be 30 year old RB. Take Barkley at 4 for that.

And someone doesnt take Barkley or Chubb. I think Denver would take either one at 5, and I think Indy would take them at 6 over 12 and a 2nd.

I guess we'll never see eye to eye on this. I just can't fathom how Cleveland is "taking some assets" by trading down from 1 to 2, but also having to trade down from 4. If Buffalo was at 2 and you knew they wanted Darnold while Cleveland wanted Allen, sure, take a 2nd and get your guy. But as it stands, Cleveland would give up 1 (3000 points) for 12, 22, 53, 65, and a future 2nd (Roughly 2800 guessing at the future 2nd ). I don't use the chart exclusively, but why would Cleveland do that?

How is Cleveland getting 6 AND 12, 22, and 65? Where is 6 coming from? Also, while it seems Allen would drop, who says that the Bills don't take Darnold and the Jets take Allen? The Bills take Allen, the Giants take Darnold, and the Jets take Mayfield? Cleveland can't take that risk without a king's ransom. You worry about that in 4 years. That a good problem to have.

Never heard of a deferred pick in the NFL.