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He broke the record for rookie TD passes. Manning and Wilson had 26.

He had a crap game, along with the rest of the team. It happens. How many times did Peyton Manning choke in the playoffs? Is he a bad QB? Where were you when luck threw 39 TDs this year?

I was pointing out that he wouldn't have to fit in the QB room. Just cut him.

Cleveland only got a 2nd, and I believe Osweiler made more. And gave back a late 4th. Why would Buffalo get more?

Cleveland cut Osweiler.

I'm not sure which is true because right after kitchens was hired it was reported multiple places that Baker was never consulted at all about which coach to hire. Florio is a Steelers fan so it's hard to tell when it comes to stuff like this if it's accurate. He trashes the Browns as many chances he can get.

Hue was thought of the #1 coaching hire that offseason by a lot of people. Turns out he is a good OC, terrible HC.

If Hue ends up in Arizona with Kingsbury, next year's Cardinals vs Browns will be interesting to say the least. Mayfield may throw 10 TDs out of pure spite.

The top rated CB by 1 service. He had s great year, but Cleveland wouldn't trade Ward for him. Carolina wouldn't trade Jackson for him. I always wonder if they factor in WHO the CB is covering.

Every 1st rounder gets a 5 year deal, not just top 10.

I'm amazed because Derek Anderson never helped develop himself.

Madden curse!

And they drafted the Defensive Rookie if the Year in the 2nd.

My only question is do they factor in who the cornerback was covering? A second or third corner should have a higher rating because they're covering lesser receivers. Knowing how intricate Pro Football Focus is I'm assuming they took that into account. Great year either way.

Only in NCAA, and it just started this year.

They cant pass the hit on to any other team. If he is traded or cut, they have to eat it. No way around it unless, as was mentioned, AB gives back money, which won't happen.

That would be the dead cap space for the Steelers, not the team he would be traded to. And Pittsburgh is always tight on cap room.

Yes, but still 14 million next year then.

That's fair then. I feel like Baker is way ahead as a passer, but obviously Allen has the running ability and size. I feel like Baker will always be a better passer. Allen can make up some of that will his running as long as he doesn't get injured a lot.

I really hope they do!

He broke the TD record in 2.5 less games.

There were a lot of rumors that Rodgers has kind of went rogue the last couple years. He is a great QB, an all time great, but if true, he caused a lot of the problems on offense too. I wouldn't love the hire of McCarthy if true, but he was a good coach for years. I don't fault him entirely for the defenses he fielded because he didn't draft the players. Notice that the GM was fired last year and they haven't been as good because of the roster. Dorsey is known as a great talent evaluator, so the talent should be there.

Is Baker not intelligent? He's been audibling and changing plays for weeks now, and actually re-huddled the team a few weeks ago after seeing the defense and essentially drew up a play in huddle that scored a TD. Allen is definitely more physically gifted, and has impressed me a lot this year, but don't act like he is definitely more football intelligent. Allen looked great yesterday, but that was the 1st game that I thought he looked like a good/great passer. So much of his success before that was based off of running, which never lasts for any QB.

I am actually excited for something other than the draft. It's amazing. Even going 10-6 in 2007, it was evident Anderson wasn't the answer long term. This is completely different.