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if you are honestly trying to say that Rudolph got his hand stuck in his helmet and was just trying to get up you're kidding yourself. He kicked him in the junk and was trying to twist and yank his helmet while they were still on the ground. Garrett drug him to the ground a little late but he didn't slam him down like you're saying.

There are pictures now of Rudolph hitting Garrett in the junk twice, once right before the helmet swing.

Watch Rudolph's press conference. He goes on about Garrett being a coward and then has this little smirk like a little kid who just got away with something. Rudolph was pissed that he got hit on a play with 8 seconds left but if you don't want to get a hit don't run a play. They weren't going to win, the play clock had more time than the game clock so they could have just kneeled the game out. Rudolph instigated a fight and Garrett definitely escalated it way beyond where it should have been. Both should be punished with Garrett obviously getting a more severe punishment.

This line of thinking is garbage. Was Garrett wrong in what he did? Absolutely. Should he be suspended? Again, absolutely. But Rudolph, QB or not, tried to tear off his helmet while twisting his neck AND kicked him in the junk, and then kept after him too. And he's 6'5" and 240lbs. He's not some defenseless and innocent bystander as it seems he's being portrayed as.

That type of play has become a trend for that exact reason. It's a pass that's basically a run, but if it doesn't connect, it's not a fumble. Every team has some variation of it.

Step 1. Do NOT make pumpkin soup.

The only thing with the Pats is they are on pace of setting the record for points differential right now, so they are playing crap teams but beating them by 20+ points on average.

Peanut butter and pickle sandwiches. They're amazing.

My point is somehow I quoted the wrong person. My post was intended for Xwnyer.

Do you not see the picture 2 posts above yours? And for the 29th time, where the "thrower" is has absolutely no effect on the call. Only where the ball is released.

He was at the 25, the ball was not. All that matters is where the ball is.

Legal. Leaves his hand at the 26. It is caught at slightly past the 25, but definitely not to the 26. Just barely, but it was legal.

Mayfield didn't play well, but he wasn't benched and you know it. You're doing a great job trolling though. He also had next to no help either. OBJ dropped at least 2 passes. Callaway drops a pass that turns in to an INT. Mayfield was hit on the early INT to Sherman, causing the throw to be short. Chubb was really the only guy on offense to play well. If that is the case, by your definition, Tom Brady has been benched. Peyton Manning. Drew Brees. The list goes on.

If you truly believe that then you don't know football. He got beat around all night, and down 28 with a minute or minute and a half? Preventing injury and benching are 2 very different things.

No. Not even a little. Ignore the last sentence if you want. The rest is still valid.

Watson has played 27 games. Mahomes is at 21. Allen is at 16. All are fumbling at a considerably lesser pace than Allen. Add in INT % and it gets worse.

Brady has been playing 20 years. 20! Allen has 25% the fumbles in like 8% of the games played.

Lamar ran 16 times for 120 yards in Week 2.

They beat the Jets by 20 points. It's "likely" they lose, huh?

Yes, they need to reduce penalties, obviously. But being 3 games in, and having 18 in the 1st game skews things a bit. I think they had 6 last night, and 6 or 7 in game 2, so they are "balancing" out. Still too many, but improving. I honestly think Baker is pressing with trying to get OBJ the ball, and the offense in general is trying too hard for the "big play." If they simplify it down and hit the open man, the offense will improve dramatically. Chubb is the real deal and the running game would be even better if the passing game was a little more competent. Baker needs to get back to what worked last year and stop trying too hard. They need to run more quick passes with a weaker o line and let the receivers make plays like OBJ did against the Jets.

They cut Robinson for a day, and he knew they would re-sign him. He isn't great, probably average at best, but the league as a whole is short on tackles. Cutting him allowed them to IR a player who otherwise would have had to go through waivers 1st.

3 games in and Kitchens is terrible? Overreact much?

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I didn't see the play, but standing over an opponent will get a taunting call must of the time.

A malcontent and drug addict. You just described Randy Moss and Cris Carter.