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The touchback call I think was just common sense. He obviously gave himself up in the endzone, so it's a touchback. The delay of game is hard to tell. The broadcast didn't always show the right numbers. By the picture it was, but there's no way to tell if it actually was a penalty. The "helmet to helmet" wasn't a penalty. To me that's not even close. I do think the crack back penalty was a bit excessive for what happened.

Cooks had 580 yards last year and has an extensive concussion history. This trade isn't as bad as the Hopkins trade, but it's still bad. And they wouldn't have needed to do it if he hadn't traded Hopkins. They're chasing their tail and getting significantly worse.

Bill O'Brien is an idiot. He essentially just traded Hopkins for Cooks and basically moved up 17 spots in the 2nd round. Terrible, terrible trade.

I think he's meaning if Watkins out in the effort and maximized his talent, he wouldn't be a bust. So it s combination of draft position and player.

Why wouldn't they have Garrett?

Pretty sure. He's decent, but no where near what he should be.

Is he? 673 and 3TDs with Mahomes vs 651 and 6 TDs with Carr. KC has a lot more options to throw to, but Watkins isn't good.

Look at the demon claws on left one!

I have no clue how a guy who had 3.5 sacks last year wants $20 million. It's insane. Clowney is a good player, but I don't feel he is elite.

Much better huh? Cleveland beat Buffalo last year in case you forgot. Freddie Kitchens was garbage. He called plays during the games that weren't practiced all week. He was clueless. Buffalo did have a better year last year but to say that they're much better is a bit of a reach.

The cores are similar too. Drafted QB, RB, CB1, olines are mixtures, WRs are almost entirely "acquired" players, dlines are mixtures, lbs are similar. Again, most teams are.

What does that even mean?

Seems Buffalo is built through free agency about the same as Cleveland at this point. Most teams are to some extent.

I bet Cleveland is in play. A need at RG and the Stefanski connection.

Now they've agreed with Conklin.

Vaitai got $10 million a year. $14 million for Conklin is a decent deal

Good, not great LB who is hurt a lot. He's risky but could pay off.

Solid? It may have been the greatest season a college QB has ever had.

No, the Browns would usually turn around and sign a guy like this. I'll take a small victory in the fact that they aren't re-signing him.

Garrett didn't make the claim until he met with the NFL. He claimed he thought the meeting would be confidential. It was after it went public that he talked about it. And the whole "audio malfunction" is fishy as can be.

Not saying he was great, but Murray had 24 TDs to Jacobs 7 (I know QB vs RB) but Murray also had 540+ yards rushing to Jacobs at 1150. Almost half from the QB position. Plus, QBs tend to get a boost just because.

He sounds a lot like our current LT in Greg Robinson, except Robinson can't run block and has no technique either.

I'd love to get Thomas at 10 in Cleveland. The last Thomas LT worked out well, and we desperately need a solid LT.

You jinxed him! His contract won't be renewed.

If they consult McDaniels on the GM hire?